Go Sweden wrote:
Another LRC idiot proven wrong wrote:
Your bus leaves in 10 minutes... Be under it dickwad
https://keyt.com/news/money-and-business/cnn-business-consumer/2021/07/28/simone-biles-sponsors-stand-by-her-after-she-withdraws-from-olympic-events/Duh!
Of course all of her sponsors are going to say that….now. Why would they say otherwise? She’s already been paid and they have already run her ads.
Go Sweden wrote:
A day later, the spin and excuse making sounds really sweet and magnanimous, but you can’t convince me a team’s top player walking out on her team mid contest was done to help the team’s chances.
None of you actually buy that do you?
You fat cow. Your bus leaves in 10 minutes... Be under it dickwad
Sometimes, when it isn't just your own destiny on the line, but those of others as well, you have to sack up and do things you don't really want to do in the moment. I have no problem with Naomi Osaka, an individual athlete, pulling out of tournaments, but jeez, it seems rotten to pull out of a team game.
This all just feels very scripted to me, I'll be honest. She is the GOAT, for now, but that won't last -- remember when Gabby Douglas was the GOAT, and all the GOATs before? It always happens in gymnastics, GOATs get replaced by new GOATs. So she earned her GOAT status in Rio, and has milked the everloving crap out of her GOAT status, but she gets to Tokyo and feels like she might not live up. So she pulls out and gets the press for being so brave, so courageous, for abandoning the team in favor of her mental health, using all the standard phrases and slogans associated with such moves.
At least she is smart enough to pull out of the individual all-around as well. Imagine how bad she'd get roasted if she only skipped the team event, once she'd technically contributed enough to get whatever medal her lesser mortal teammates could earn for her, but then came back for individual glory.
yorkshire wrote:
Bound4Glory wrote:
And on that matter, I wish Simone would just say this: for whatever reason I was having an off-day, a sub-par Olympics, and I thought the team would be better without me. That's it. It's simple to understand and it's true. No need to invoke mental health.
How can YOU say it's mental health related or not? YOU DON'T KNOW. Do realize the stress she's been under for years to be labeled the best ever. Going through all the USA gymnastics sexual assault stuff, dealing with constant injury and being anything other than living up to the "greatest of all time" label. She had nothing to gain doing these Olympics as far as her reputation, and only could lose if she didn't perform up to her standards and had someone beat her. So you....who doesn't have a clue what she's going/gone through, so you have NO RIGHT to say if it was due to mental health or not.
BTW- did you see her talking to her teammates while this was happening? She said to them "I don't trust myself" was one think she was said. She owned up to them. What she tells the media and all the critics don't matter. She stood there in front of everyone knowing the criticism and questions she would face.
If she had nothing to gain from competing in these Olympics then why go? Your whole argument falls apart right here.
Also, I don’t see how the sexual abuse comes into play on this one. She performed at the highest level for years despite the abuse which is admirable. You can’t just use it as a crutch when convenient though. The fact is she quit under the stress and the media is using the popular mental health nonsense excuse.
malarko wrote:
Sometimes, when it isn't just your own destiny on the line, but those of others as well, you have to sack up and do things you don't really want to do in the moment. I have no problem with Naomi Osaka, an individual athlete, pulling out of tournaments, but jeez, it seems rotten to pull out of a team game.
All of these dopey apologists have consistently ignored this. She was a part of a team. That alone makes this more tham just about her.
malarko wrote:
Sometimes, when it isn't just your own destiny on the line, but those of others as well, you have to sack up and do things you don't really want to do in the moment. I have no problem with Naomi Osaka, an individual athlete, pulling out of tournaments, but jeez, it seems rotten to pull out of a team game.
This all just feels very scripted to me, I'll be honest. She is the GOAT, for now, but that won't last -- remember when Gabby Douglas was the GOAT, and all the GOATs before? It always happens in gymnastics, GOATs get replaced by new GOATs. So she earned her GOAT status in Rio, and has milked the everloving crap out of her GOAT status, but she gets to Tokyo and feels like she might not live up. So she pulls out and gets the press for being so brave, so courageous, for abandoning the team in favor of her mental health, using all the standard phrases and slogans associated with such moves.
At least she is smart enough to pull out of the individual all-around as well. Imagine how bad she'd get roasted if she only skipped the team event, once she'd technically contributed enough to get whatever medal her lesser mortal teammates could earn for her, but then came back for individual glory.
She will be the GOAT by virtue of tricks, spins and flips that no one else on earth was or is able to do. This is an objective, tangible measure of greatness. No one else could do those things. Not Gabby Dougless or anyone else.
umstead wrote:
malarko wrote:
Sometimes, when it isn't just your own destiny on the line, but those of others as well, you have to sack up and do things you don't really want to do in the moment. I have no problem with Naomi Osaka, an individual athlete, pulling out of tournaments, but jeez, it seems rotten to pull out of a team game.
This all just feels very scripted to me, I'll be honest. She is the GOAT, for now, but that won't last -- remember when Gabby Douglas was the GOAT, and all the GOATs before? It always happens in gymnastics, GOATs get replaced by new GOATs. So she earned her GOAT status in Rio, and has milked the everloving crap out of her GOAT status, but she gets to Tokyo and feels like she might not live up. So she pulls out and gets the press for being so brave, so courageous, for abandoning the team in favor of her mental health, using all the standard phrases and slogans associated with such moves.
At least she is smart enough to pull out of the individual all-around as well. Imagine how bad she'd get roasted if she only skipped the team event, once she'd technically contributed enough to get whatever medal her lesser mortal teammates could earn for her, but then came back for individual glory.
She will be the GOAT by virtue of tricks, spins and flips that no one else on earth was or is able to do. This is an objective, tangible measure of greatness. No one else could do those things. Not Gabby Dougless or anyone else.
Apparently she cannot complete them wother.
Either*
She already did complete them. You don't become the GOAT in her sport by doing it for 20+ years at the highest level, like Brady. She's 24 years old, VERY old for gymnastics, or any sport where body flexibility, speed and muscle explosiveness is the priority at all times. No one ranks gymnasts on the scale of greatness because of their longevity in the sport.
malarko wrote:
Sometimes, when it isn't just your own destiny on the line, but those of others as well, you have to sack up and do things you don't really want to do in the moment. I have no problem with Naomi Osaka, an individual athlete, pulling out of tournaments, but jeez, it seems rotten to pull out of a team game.
This all just feels very scripted to me, I'll be honest. She is the GOAT, for now, but that won't last -- remember when Gabby Douglas was the GOAT, and all the GOATs before? It always happens in gymnastics, GOATs get replaced by new GOATs. So she earned her GOAT status in Rio, and has milked the everloving crap out of her GOAT status, but she gets to Tokyo and feels like she might not live up. So she pulls out and gets the press for being so brave, so courageous, for abandoning the team in favor of her mental health, using all the standard phrases and slogans associated with such moves.
At least she is smart enough to pull out of the individual all-around as well. Imagine how bad she'd get roasted if she only skipped the team event, once she'd technically contributed enough to get whatever medal her lesser mortal teammates could earn for her, but then came back for individual glory.
This is it. She had a bad day and didn't want to tarnish her near-perfect streak so she quit. She's used to always getting her way and didn't have the skills to cope when things weren't going her way. Very soft.
umstead wrote:
She already did complete them. You don't become the GOAT in her sport by doing it for 20+ years at the highest level, like Brady. She's 24 years old, VERY old for gymnastics, or any sport where body flexibility, speed and muscle explosiveness is the priority at all times. No one ranks gymnasts on the scale of greatness because of their longevity in the sport.
You don’t become the goat by quitting.
Another LRC idiot proven wrong wrote:
Go Sweden wrote:
Duh!
Of course all of her sponsors are going to say that….now. Why would they say otherwise? She’s already been paid and they have already run her ads.
Another LRC idiot making a comment that is made up in his own head and tries to present it as fact.
They support her, jackass...they know her...you don't.
Lol…According to CNN
NY_HSCoach wrote:
Screwing up in one of those vaults when you're mental game is off can put you in a wheelchair. Forever.
You are exactly right. If she was so mentally unprepared that to continue would risk serious and permanent injury, then she was right to pull out.
But, at the same time, if you can't compete in the big game, much less win it, you are are not the GOAT. Period. She can no longer be considered the GOAT.
I’m not mad about Biles pulling out; I am mad there is still no tug-of-war in the Olympics. I’m not even joking. What event would be better, pitting nation against nation, than a tug of war? I don’t care how it’s done. Five people on each side, a total weight limit where you can put as many people as possible under that limit, three on three. The possibilities are endless and it’s a shame it hasn’t been done.
I’m old enough to remember when Roy Campanella quit on the Dodgers, Sandy Koufax the same, Don Mattingly, he’ll even Lou Gehrig quit. They’re all quitters!!!
Bound4Glory wrote:
NY_HSCoach wrote:
Screwing up in one of those vaults when you're mental game is off can put you in a wheelchair. Forever.
You are exactly right. If she was so mentally unprepared that to continue would risk serious and permanent injury, then she was right to pull out.
But, at the same time, if you can't compete in the big game, much less win it, you are are not the GOAT. Period. She can no longer be considered the GOAT.
So by that standard Kerri Strug may be the GOAT in the sport of gymnastics. News to her.
Running dweebs thinking they can change the fact that Biles is the GOAT is hilarious.
baa baa wool wrote:
Running dweebs thinking they can change the fact that Biles is the GOAT is hilarious.
When it comes to quitting, she's now the Greatest of All Time. I'll give you that. I don't think anyone comes close. Has there ever been a more high profile quit? Ever?
So, you're right, she's still the GOAT.
not even a runner wrote:
I’m not mad about Biles pulling out; I am mad there is still no tug-of-war in the Olympics. I’m not even joking. What event would be better, pitting nation against nation, than a tug of war? I don’t care how it’s done. Five people on each side, a total weight limit where you can put as many people as possible under that limit, three on three. The possibilities are endless and it’s a shame it hasn’t been done.
it used to be an event
Bound4Glory wrote:
baa baa wool wrote:
Running dweebs thinking they can change the fact that Biles is the GOAT is hilarious.
When it comes to quitting, she's now the Greatest of All Time. I'll give you that. I don't think anyone comes close. Has there ever been a more high profile quit? Ever?
So, you're right, she's still the GOAT.
^look at this running dweeb thinking he can change facts^