7:17.55! Jakob Ingebrigtsen DESTROYS 3000m WR

rekrunner wrote:

Khamis wrote:

Our downvotes are slightly different from yours Mr PD!!!! Our downvotes are due to us being expressly ADs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! People have an agenda for folks who preach about AD and that's because sin is in them. They wanna try to find a way to cheat, hide and gain unfair earnings and winnings.

Your downvotes are due to you being expressly being much too affected in your methods and explanations on doping. It becomes all too fake and unreal you feeling me?????? That's why you get downvoted because people think you don't wear your heart on your sleeve. You are in reality a PD disguising as an AD!!!!!!!!! But you don't need to do that, people want to see you in your raw form and want you to be brave enough to show it for what you are, a PD!!!!!!!!!!

Your explanation is nonsensical gobbledygook. I don't provide "explanations on doping" so much as ask posters like you and Armstronglivs to provide some objective facts, data, and evidence which can support your "explanations on doping". It is not "fake and unreal" for me to request you to attempt to meet this minimum intellectual standard.

I understand why my posts are unpopular, because I am sceptical and challenge widely accepted popular beliefs and ask for supporting data that no one can provide or has provided despite 4-5 decades of scientific research and anecdotes of elite performance.

But unlike me, despite you taking the popular side of the subject, you are still unpopular. It is what you say and the way you say it.

You believe you are "anti-doping" while I am not, but posters like you and Armstronglivs, who consistently and blindly spread the "power of doping" gospels without any objective supporting data, are essentially infomercials for the "power of doping". When athletes think like you, the result is temptation to dope while lacking objective data. When athletes think like me, they will look first for proven legal methods, like altitude training and superspikes and will hesitate to resort to banned substances and methods which may be a big risk with little reward.

justanothercuriousdude wrote:

Khamis wrote:

Oh come on sir, it was different when he was younger. He won during his early years because he had nothing to lose and no pressure really. What is Euros???? Euros is a lousy competition so let's talk only about OG and WC pls sir!!!!!! Jakob only started becoming weak in the mind because of the pressure after having won OG in 2021. If he was nervous before then he was far more nervous than ever after winning OG in 2021!!!

Thank you for your answer -I liked it, because it gives me an opportunity to give an example I forgot (and since it’s a recent one it also “disproves” your post here):

In WC 2023 5000m Jakob was sick -probably even worse than he had been in the 1500m final (he said “ dizzy all day”). So, if you are sick, and you have everything to lose (as he had in this 5000m final) you have to be really strong minded to do everything right tactically (as he did conserving energy close to the rail, and so on), and even beating a competitor that really challenged you all the way to the line, and despite this making you more spent than almost ever in a 5000m…

You might pose that he wasn’t sick but weak minded / nervous. But the problem with such a reasoning is also this: Why would he expose himself to such an extreme degree (to vulnerability) as he often does if he was afraid of losing? (Examples: Bowerman mile -3.43- with jet lag. 3000m the next day being leggy, but still front running. Confronting Kerr in a mile in May 2024 despite not being fully recovered from his injury. Running against his “enemy” Nordås in the Nationals 5000m only 14 hours post an all out 1500m, and thus making himself extremely vulnerable for losing…).

Jakob isn’t weak minded. Your reasoning on the other hand is…

Khamis wrote:

rekrunner wrote:

Your explanation is nonsensical gobbledygook. I don't provide "explanations on doping" so much as ask posters like you and Armstronglivs to provide some objective facts, data, and evidence which can support your "explanations on doping". It is not "fake and unreal" for me to request you to attempt to meet this minimum intellectual standard.

I understand why my posts are unpopular, because I am sceptical and challenge widely accepted popular beliefs and ask for supporting data that no one can provide or has provided despite 4-5 decades of scientific research and anecdotes of elite performance.

But unlike me, despite you taking the popular side of the subject, you are still unpopular. It is what you say and the way you say it.

You believe you are "anti-doping" while I am not, but posters like you and Armstronglivs, who consistently and blindly spread the "power of doping" gospels without any objective supporting data, are essentially infomercials for the "power of doping". When athletes think like you, the result is temptation to dope while lacking objective data. When athletes think like me, they will look first for proven legal methods, like altitude training and superspikes and will hesitate to resort to banned substances and methods which may be a big risk with little reward.

Oh really you provided so much explanations on why nobody is doping which is essentially a defensive treatise on doping you fool!!!! You played down played down and played down all intention, suspicion and evidence of doping and sought to overturn even Alberto Salazar's obvious doping cartel!!!!! I remembered all that you did alright and it was the most sinister experience I ever had with an LRC folk on here!!!!!!!!!

What you said, and, the way you said it makes it all the more nauseating you feeling me Mr PD?????

On the other hand, I educated you that the evidence bar for doping needs to be upgraded from objective to subjective. I specifically decreed on LRC with my RF expertise that for certain human domains of existence and consciousness such as RF and also for doping, subjective evidence is of a higher value than objective ones as reasoning and persuading in a subjective manner would be more avant garde and advanced in order to catch up with the equally advance doping methods and pernicious effects of anthropogenic RF on human biology respectively!!!

Please Mr PD, your views and services are not welcomed on LRC, you are extremely backward and ancient in your methods at least, otherwise very corrupt as you seemed way too affected and contrived in your request, explanations and reasons!!!!! On the other hand, there are many on LRC who love and cherish me as you can see from the number of subscribers I have on my channel!!!!! I believe I have no less than a 100 strong subscribers and counting alright!!!!!

I hate AFFECTED-NESS. I want AUTHENTICITY!!!!!!

justanothercuriousdude wrote:

Khamis wrote:

Oh really you provided so much explanations on why nobody is doping which is essentially a defensive treatise on doping you fool!!!! You played down played down and played down all intention, suspicion and evidence of doping and sought to overturn even Alberto Salazar's obvious doping cartel!!!!! I remembered all that you did alright and it was the most sinister experience I ever had with an LRC folk on here!!!!!!!!!

What you said, and, the way you said it makes it all the more nauseating you feeling me Mr PD?????

On the other hand, I educated you that the evidence bar for doping needs to be upgraded from objective to subjective. I specifically decreed on LRC with my RF expertise that for certain human domains of existence and consciousness such as RF and also for doping, subjective evidence is of a higher value than objective ones as reasoning and persuading in a subjective manner would be more avant garde and advanced in order to catch up with the equally advance doping methods and pernicious effects of anthropogenic RF on human biology respectively!!!

Please Mr PD, your views and services are not welcomed on LRC, you are extremely backward and ancient in your methods at least, otherwise very corrupt as you seemed way too affected and contrived in your request, explanations and reasons!!!!! On the other hand, there are many on LRC who love and cherish me as you can see from the number of subscribers I have on my channel!!!!! I believe I have no less than a 100 strong subscribers and counting alright!!!!!

I hate AFFECTED-NESS. I want AUTHENTICITY!!!!!!

Well, his “views and services” are very well welcomed by me (At least among my favourite 5 posters on these boards, maybe even a candidate to top one)…

Khamis wrote:

Why would Jakob expose himself to such a degree of vulnerability if he was really weak minded?

My answer to your question is because even weak minded people are actively weighing his cost and benefits option and even weak minded people also err on the side of utilitarianism, a theory which promotes the maximum benefit for the maximum number of people. Jakob ran the Budapest final when he was sick because he still stood to benefit in the end in whatever manner possible and it also would benefit the fans and spectators and world athletics and Seb Coe's tenure, you feeling me sir?????

It's a dynamic form of weak-mindedness that Jakob has, just as anthropogenic RF harms and injures human biology in a dynamic evolving start-stop manner, you feeling me sir????

But the general trend of this start-stop dynamic event is still a downward depreciating value. This means Jakob's being weak-minded could still demonstrate random spurts or bursts of relative 'courage' and 'strong-mindedness' relative to his weak-minded default spirit/mind, you feeling me sir??????? BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You see how well I conduct reason and persuasion compared to everybody else on LRC and explain it so well to you folks??? You should be like me and learn from me too!!! I want everybody to be as good as me alright!!!!! That's the only way to become a SAINT!!!!!!!

boogermeister wrote:

Khamis wrote:

Why would Jakob expose himself to such a degree of vulnerability if he was really weak minded?

My answer to your question is because even weak minded people are actively weighing his cost and benefits option and even weak minded people also err on the side of utilitarianism, a theory which promotes the maximum benefit for the maximum number of people. Jakob ran the Budapest final when he was sick because he still stood to benefit in the end in whatever manner possible and it also would benefit the fans and spectators and world athletics and Seb Coe's tenure, you feeling me sir?????

It's a dynamic form of weak-mindedness that Jakob has, just as anthropogenic RF harms and injures human biology in a dynamic evolving start-stop manner, you feeling me sir????

But the general trend of this start-stop dynamic event is still a downward depreciating value. This means Jakob's being weak-minded could still demonstrate random spurts or bursts of relative 'courage' and 'strong-mindedness' relative to his weak-minded default spirit/mind, you feeling me sir??????? BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You see how well I conduct reason and persuasion compared to everybody else on LRC and explain it so well to you folks??? You should be like me and learn from me too!!! I want everybody to be as good as me alright!!!!! That's the only way to become a SAINT!!!!!!!

You forgot to upvote your post.

Khamis wrote:

Oh really you provided so much explanations on why nobody is doping which is essentially a defensive treatise on doping you fool!!!! You played down played down and played down all intention, suspicion and evidence of doping and sought to overturn even Alberto Salazar's obvious doping cartel!!!!! I remembered all that you did alright and it was the most sinister experience I ever had with an LRC folk on here!!!!!!!!!

What you said, and, the way you said it makes it all the more nauseating you feeling me Mr PD?????

On the other hand, I educated you that the evidence bar for doping needs to be upgraded from objective to subjective. I specifically decreed on LRC with my RF expertise that for certain human domains of existence and consciousness such as RF and also for doping, subjective evidence is of a higher value than objective ones as reasoning and persuading in a subjective manner would be more avant garde and advanced in order to catch up with the equally advance doping methods and pernicious effects of anthropogenic RF on human biology respectively!!!

Please Mr PD, your views and services are not welcomed on LRC, you are extremely backward and ancient in your methods at least, otherwise very corrupt as you seemed way too affected and contrived in your request, explanations and reasons!!!!! On the other hand, there are many on LRC who love and cherish me as you can see from the number of subscribers I have on my channel!!!!! I believe I have no less than a 100 strong subscribers and counting alright!!!!!

I hate AFFECTED-NESS. I want AUTHENTICITY!!!!!!