Didn’t Tuohy have a bunch of improvements the season after having knee surgery which she kept very under wraps? And people said she would never recover?
Seems your argument goes out the window taking that into consideration.
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Huh!!!!!? She did not even make nationals that year after coming bsck from knee surgery. Valby comes back from injury/surgery and massively prs.
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But did tuohy have an Arc Trainer at her disposal, eh? :)
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You are finally catching up. Valby is a generational talent. Tuohy is a great NCAA runner.
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Huh!!!!!? She did not even make nationals that year after coming bsck from knee surgery. Valby comes back from injury/surgery and massively prs.
You mean she didn’t make indoor nationals that next year? She didn’t place 7th in the DMR? XC nationals were moved to match 2021 that year if you don’t remember. She placed 24th in that race.
So once again you are wrong.
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not a duck wrote:
astro wrote:
Huh!!!!!? She did not even make nationals that year after coming bsck from knee surgery. Valby comes back from injury/surgery and massively prs.
You mean she didn’t make indoor nationals that next year? She didn’t place 7th in the DMR? XC nationals were moved to match 2021 that year if you don’t remember. She placed 24th in that race.
So once again you are wrong.
That was the Tuohy that struggled to run 3:24 on DMR lead leg, 9:20ish for 3000 twice prior to that, right? And prompted some on this forum to comment on her appearance in the NCAA XC race? 15:47 for 5000 in April? It seemed to take her some time to get back.
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Every doper is a magical "genetational talent". Like Gidey, who is so generationally talented that she can blow away wrs set by major confirmed dopers completely clean. LOLL. Quite the fan club. Can we have Hassan and Houlihan fans chime in too?
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If you can point to one single red flag with Tuohy, let us know. Ever think maybe that is why she has a fan club in a dope-infested sport? Because in a sport rife with cheating and illusion and lies people know something is actually real? And because she has the progression with the normal ebbs and flows of a naturally talented athlete, it becomes a benchmark to compare against more anomalous progressions, such as the supposed late-bloomerism that is often used to explain sudden pro progressions.
Tuohy is the most muscular female distance runner I've seen since Shelby. It's actually a bit ridiculous seeing her race other girls in the NCAA.
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astro wrote:
If you can point to one single red flag with Tuohy, let us know. Ever think maybe that is why she has a fan club in a dope-infested sport? Because in a sport rife with cheating and illusion and lies people know something is actually real? And because she has the progression with the normal ebbs and flows of a naturally talented athlete, it becomes a benchmark to compare against more anomalous progressions, such as the supposed late-bloomerism that is often used to explain sudden pro progressions.
Tuohy is the most muscular female distance runner I've seen since Shelby. It's actually a bit ridiculous seeing her race other girls in the NCAA.
Imagine that, after 5 years of training...
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FastTuohy wrote:
not a duck wrote:
You mean she didn’t make indoor nationals that next year? She didn’t place 7th in the DMR? XC nationals were moved to match 2021 that year if you don’t remember. She placed 24th in that race.
So once again you are wrong.
That was the Tuohy that struggled to run 3:24 on DMR lead leg, 9:20ish for 3000 twice prior to that, right? And prompted some on this forum to comment on her appearance in the NCAA XC race? 15:47 for 5000 in April? It seemed to take her some time to get back.
Lol. Her senior year of high school she ran a 9:33 3k and 4:21 1500.
that 1500 pace is slower than her “struggling” DMR run that you mention.
You could very easily spin a narrative that Tuohy had to resort to PEDs to keep up with the competition after peaking her junior year of high school. She didn’t run a single PR her senior year that I know of. After knowing she would be lost in NCAA competition she has knee surgery to fix some long term issues and starts taking PEDS to ease the recovery process.
It takes a couple months as a serious surgery would but within 9 months she’s running faster than she was her senior year and within the next calendar year wins an indoor conference title, two second place finishes at indoor nationals, an outdoor conference title, two second place conference finishes, a regionals title and an individual NCAA championship.
I can paint an argument any way I want and make it seem plausible if I like.
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Yes she does strength training to get big but she continues to get faster. That is the suspicious part.
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not a duck wrote:
FastTuohy wrote:
That was the Tuohy that struggled to run 3:24 on DMR lead leg, 9:20ish for 3000 twice prior to that, right? And prompted some on this forum to comment on her appearance in the NCAA XC race? 15:47 for 5000 in April? It seemed to take her some time to get back.
Lol. Her senior year of high school she ran a 9:33 3k and 4:21 1500.
that 1500 pace is slower than her “struggling” DMR run that you mention.
You could very easily spin a narrative that Tuohy had to resort to PEDs to keep up with the competition after peaking her junior year of high school. She didn’t run a single PR her senior year that I know of. After knowing she would be lost in NCAA competition she has knee surgery to fix some long term issues and starts taking PEDS to ease the recovery process.
It takes a couple months as a serious surgery would but within 9 months she’s running faster than she was her senior year and within the next calendar year wins an indoor conference title, two second place finishes at indoor nationals, an outdoor conference title, two second place conference finishes, a regionals title and an individual NCAA championship.
I can paint an argument any way I want and make it seem plausible if I like.
Yikes. Actually, you painted it sort of convincing-like.
Golly, they’ve been deflecting the spot-light all along?? Fer shame, fer shame.
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Now you are flailing. Her senior year she was suffering from the knee injury she would eventually have surgery for. And she had a normal recovery period, about one year.
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Knee surgeries can be career-ending.
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not a duck wrote:
FastTuohy wrote:
That was the Tuohy that struggled to run 3:24 on DMR lead leg, 9:20ish for 3000 twice prior to that, right? And prompted some on this forum to comment on her appearance in the NCAA XC race? 15:47 for 5000 in April? It seemed to take her some time to get back.
Lol. Her senior year of high school she ran a 9:33 3k and 4:21 1500.
that 1500 pace is slower than her “struggling” DMR run that you mention.
You could very easily spin a narrative that Tuohy had to resort to PEDs to keep up with the competition after peaking her junior year of high school. She didn’t run a single PR her senior year that I know of. After knowing she would be lost in NCAA competition she has knee surgery to fix some long term issues and starts taking PEDS to ease the recovery process.
It takes a couple months as a serious surgery would but within 9 months she’s running faster than she was her senior year and within the next calendar year wins an indoor conference title, two second place finishes at indoor nationals, an outdoor conference title, two second place conference finishes, a regionals title and an individual NCAA championship.
I can paint an argument any way I want and make it seem plausible if I like.
that 1500 pace is slower than her “struggling” DMR run that you mention.
LOL I remember that race - she kinda loafed thru 700 and then started running - last 800 in 2:16 I believe.
here is the DMR
Looked and found it on Milesplit - but you need an account to view.
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Well if she develops that leaned out clenbuterol pro look and suddenly starts popping off massive prs that enter into the suspect zone after injury breaks while running for a BTC/Dr. Brown alumni, be sure to let us know.
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So we are at the desperate deflection portion of the discussion. Yawn.
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