SHOCKING DEVELOPMENT!!! - Shelby Houlihan is running in the Olympic Trials! (Yes, Really)

Pole Vault Power may not be accurate https://twitter.com/tommysommertime/status/1405655532187406339?s=21

stantheman72 wrote:

Pole Vault Power may not be accurate

I already cited precedence: the IAAF banned everyone who raced with banned Toothpaste-Nandrolone-Baumann during a German Championship 20 years ago. Baumann actually did have an injunction, so the German TF could not stop him.

I don't think the situation is that different with banned Burrito-Nandrolone-Houlihan during an American Championship (aside from the possibily missing injunction).

I really don’t know myself what the answer is. But it doesn’t seem cut and dry.

wakkoxc wrote:

Go to Target, pick up a box of Throw Throw Burrito, you'll get two foam burritos ideal for throwing.

It would be awesome to see hundreds of foam burritos littering the backstretch.

LOL, this is a real thing! I thought it was some sort of joke!

Please boo Shelby when she steps on the track. Absolutely embarrassing day for USATF

Beyond the legal wranglings, this is the absolutely worst thing for the sport. Her participation is a guarantee to pull a pall over the entire trials.

It has me and everyone I know excited. It has made mainstream news.

blue man wrote:

It has me and everyone I know excited. It has made mainstream news.

Yep. Say it with me: There's no such thing as bad publicity.

Other sports understand this, and don't do as much hand wringing over (comparatively much larger) scandals. I'd say the NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL, etc., is still doing okay.

The 'bush country" -- ffs try to mask your nonsense at least a little bit

Let Shelby Run! wrote:

Are you for certain that the top African athletes in the bush country were being subjected to twice monthly drug testing like in the USA?

It was already loaded with Sham and Fraud. Maybe the impassioned speech of one of the coaches caused some of the higher-ups behind the closed doors in the major 'stakeholders' boardrooms to rethink their strategy on this one.

What's "the bush country"?

And people should start saying it slower for the people in the back -- she already went through the process, didnt prove that it was reasonable that there was a food truck near where she lives that served offal, ipso facto she tested positive because of that.

She's using something else. That something is either A. Illegal B. Unethical in the eyes of the very same people that are saying shes innocent and therefore would make a terrible cover story either A or B.

Try that excuse on your community. "hey, i couldnt have murdered that person because i was actually cheating on my wife at the time"

Brianruns10 wrote:

shocked I tell you again wrote:

This is great news! She deserves a chance to prove her innocence.

She already tried. She's been trying since January. She exhausted her appeals. She was found guilty of a doping offense. There's nothing left to prove, except whether or not a cheater can game the system.

SH has the right to appeal the verdict unanimously cast against her by CAS.

Just like convicted criminals have the right to appeal the verdicts cast against them.

However, the appeal process does not free the convicted criminals from their prison cells.

Nor should it free SH from her 4 year ban until AFTER and/or IF she wins her 2nd appeal

casual obsever wrote:

stantheman72 wrote:

Pole Vault Power may not be accurate

I already cited precedence: the IAAF banned everyone who raced with banned Toothpaste-Nandrolone-Baumann during a German Championship 20 years ago. Baumann actually did have an injunction, so the German TF could not stop him.

I don't think the situation is that different with banned Burrito-Nandrolone-Houlihan during an American Championship (aside from the possibily missing injunction).

Houlihan's situation is very similar to that of Mary Slaney's in 1997 after the IAAF suspended her for high T/E ratio. She had filed an appeal in court contesting her suspension and wanted to run the 1500 at the 1997 USA championships. USATF was going to allow her to compete, but the IAAF warned USATF of their contamination rule in regards to other runners competing with an ineligible athlete. I believe Slaney eventually withdrew, as she didn't want to jeopardize the standing of the other athletes. Here is the article (which also alludes to the Butch Reynolds incident).

reasonableperson001 wrote:

Think About It wrote:

Because of course the American judicial system is world renowned and inherently reliable …..

Larry Dickman is a classic example of why our country has so many problems. He speaks authoritatively in BS platitudes that are incorrect and expects everything to go his way. Give me a break.

Larry Dickman doesn't even have evidence of a US Court's injunction, he just assumes as much because another bozo on LetsRun said so. And maybe there is an injunction, but Larry Dickman would never bother to look into it. Why? Because Larry Dickman is a thoughtless chum whose words are generally meaningless.

Hiding behind anonymous "reasonableperson001" account, this person has brave thoughts on words and stuff.

Larry Dickman wrote:

reasonableperson001 wrote:

Larry Dickman is a classic example of why our country has so many problems. He speaks authoritatively in BS platitudes that are incorrect and expects everything to go his way. Give me a break.

Larry Dickman doesn't even have evidence of a US Court's injunction, he just assumes as much because another bozo on LetsRun said so. And maybe there is an injunction, but Larry Dickman would never bother to look into it. Why? Because Larry Dickman is a thoughtless chum whose words are generally meaningless.

Hiding behind anonymous "reasonableperson001" account, this person has brave thoughts on words and stuff.

Larry, with all that weirdness from reasonable person aside, do you have a source on the injunction? The stuff you’re saying about jurisdiction doesn’t actually make any sense. Not saying those comments about you aren’t weird and misplaced, but like wtf do you mean?

Is Lance also competing?

thoughts and prayers wrote:

Just her presence changes the way the race is run and therefore the outcome regardless of whether or not she places

^^^this

She should GTFO!

2 THE GILLS!!!

Does this mean Christian Colemsn can race the trials?