altitude conversion lover wrote:
LetsRun.com wrote:
Since the meet was at 3217 feet of altitude, the NCAA will actually convert the time down to a 1:44.97 for NCAA entry purposes.
So should we count it as the American record with an asterisk since Gray's record is 1:45.00?
No.........converted times should not count.
Where can I go to read up on A & M’s mid d training
IChoseD2 wrote:
Where can I go to read up on A & M’s mid d training
Sorry, Top Secret workouts. What I can tell you is these guys came back really early from Christmas break. They were working out on their own til the coaches got back. One of the last workouts before the meet was three sets of high quality 500s-300s and little rest.
2:18 wrote:
IChoseD2 wrote:
Where can I go to read up on A & M’s mid d training
Sorry, Top Secret workouts. What I can tell you is these guys came back really early from Christmas break. They were working out on their own til the coaches got back. One of the last workouts before the meet was three sets of high quality 500s-300s and little rest.
A&M getting any good 800/Mile guys and girls in the next class? With numbers like the ones they are putting up this year, they should attract some good talent. Also, what is the new outdoor track like? What surface are they putting down? Will it be fast?
LetsRun.com wrote:
The Texas A&M junior, who was a prep star in Georgia in HS and has scored at NCAA outdoors his freshman (7th) and sophomore years (5th) , ran a 1:45.27 to win at Texas Tech on Saturday. In doing so, he smashed Donavan Brazier's indoor school record of 1:45.93 as well as Derick Peterson's American collegiate indoor record of 1:45.88.
Dixon is now the #3 ranked indoor collegian and indoor American in history according to TFN!
Since the meet was at 3217 feet of altitude, the NCAA will actually convert the time down to a 1:44.97 for NCAA entry purposes.
January 24-26, 2019 | Texas Tech-Sports Performance Center - Lubbock, TX | 200m (Banked) | 3217 ft. elevation
Men's 800 Meters
PL NAME YEAR TEAM TIME
1. Dixon, Devin JR-3 Texas A&M 1:45.27
2. Jewett, Isaiah JR-3 USC 1:46.91
3. Orange, Carlton JR-3 Texas A&M 1:47.05
4. Crisp, Vincent SR-4 Texas Tech 1:47.28
5. Koech, Jonah SR-4 Texas Tech 1:47.29
6. Martinsson, Erik SR-4 UT-Arlington 1:48.45
7. Cepus, Sven FR-1 Texas Tech 1:49.00
8. Gilreath, James Team Green 1:50.54
NCAA top 10 according to TFN
1:44.84 Paul Ereng’ (Virginia) 3/04/89
1:45.15 Michael Saruni’ (UTEP) 3/10/18
1:45.27 Devin Dixon (Texas A&M) 1/26/19
1:45.33 Patrick Nduwimana’ (Arizona) 3/10/01
1:45.80 Einars Tupuritis’ (Wichita State) 3/09/96
1:45.88 Derek Peterson (Missouri) 3/06/99
1:45.93 Donavan Brazier (Texas A&M) 1/16/16
1:45.95 Dirk Heinze’ (Arkansas) 3/10/01
1:46.05 Trinity Gray (Brown) 3/06/99
1:46.05 Edward Kemboi’ (Iowa St) 3/14/15
US Top 3 according to TFN
1:45.00 Johnny Gray (Santa Monica TC) 3/08/92
1:45.10 Donavan Brazier (Nike) 2/18/18
1:45.27 Devin Dixon (Texas A&M) 1/26/19
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Could they wear something a bit tighter next time? I think I missed a bit of detail.
htaresr wrote:
2:18 wrote:
Sorry, Top Secret workouts. What I can tell you is these guys came back really early from Christmas break. They were working out on their own til the coaches got back. One of the last workouts before the meet was three sets of high quality 500s-300s and little rest.
A&M getting any good 800/Mile guys and girls in the next class? With numbers like the ones they are putting up this year, they should attract some good talent. Also, what is the new outdoor track like? What surface are they putting down? Will it be fast?
Last time I was there most of the work was done. They were just waiting on the right temperature to pour the track. There is suppose to be a game room / rec center for the athletes.
I can’t believe this thread has gone this long without anyone pointing out that the “American collegiate record” is 100% not a real thing, and it’s ridiculous to pretend that it is. I thought people like the Brojos were supposed to be against watered down, made up awards like this. No participation trophies and all that outrage, right? This undeniably impressive and promising performance was nevertheless not an American record, nor was it an NCAA record.
douglas burke wrote:
Dixon has a really fast 400 for an 800 runner (45.22) Kind of like Mark Everett who had best's in the 400 (44.69) and 800 (1:42.20)
Everett's 400 and 800 PRs are listed on his IAAF page as 44.59 and 1:43.20, not 44.69 and 1:42.20.
https://www.iaaf.org/athletes/united-states/mark-everett-820htaresr wrote:
2:18 wrote:
Sorry, Top Secret workouts. What I can tell you is these guys came back really early from Christmas break. They were working out on their own til the coaches got back. One of the last workouts before the meet was three sets of high quality 500s-300s and little rest.
A&M getting any good 800/Mile guys and girls in the next class? With numbers like the ones they are putting up this year, they should attract some good talent. Also, what is the new outdoor track like? What surface are they putting down? Will it be fast?
It looks from the photos like the outdoor track will be poured and not mondo like the indoor track. Not as fast but better to train on.
Ehso wrote:
I can’t believe this thread has gone this long without anyone pointing out that the “American collegiate record” is 100% not a real thing, and it’s ridiculous to pretend that it is. I thought people like the Brojos were supposed to be against watered down, made up awards like this. No participation trophies and all that outrage, right? This undeniably impressive and promising performance was nevertheless not an American record, nor was it an NCAA record.
I'm tired of mentioning it.
Such a bizarre notion. The NCAA division is multi-national.
If an American athlete runs faster than the NCAA record whilst competing in a foreign collegiate athletics league like BUCS, what record does he get then? The American collegiate record?
Are they actually stating that Devin Dixon has in fact broken the American-born-collegiate-NCAA-indoor 800m 'record'? Lol.
My thoughts exactly. I had to read the article to understand what an American collegiate record was.
Why do you guys keep citing obviously incorrect altitude tables? Altitude is neutral, possibly even slightly helpful for such a short race. This is almost as dumb as when some random b-tier Kenyans ran fast 1500s at 8000' and LRC tried to claim they were worth better than the world record. Altitude has more effect with longer, more aerobic runs. If I run a hard 20 miler at 5000' vs sea level, I'm 20 seconds per mile faster at sea level. If I run a hard mile at 5000' vs sea level, they're nearly identical.
Les wrote:
douglas burke wrote:
Dixon has a really fast 400 for an 800 runner (45.22) Kind of like Mark Everett who had best's in the 400 (44.69) and 800 (1:42.20)
Everett's 400 and 800 PRs are listed on his IAAF page as 44.59 and 1:43.20, not 44.69 and 1:42.20.
https://www.iaaf.org/athletes/united-states/mark-everett-820
Thank you for the correction, I was just wrong on the 400 time, the 800 was a typo, I know the American Record is 1:42.60 by Johnny Gray.
Dixon this weekend -
Friday - 45.68 (NCAA #2 and #3 World)
Saturday - 44.24 relay split (fastest indoor relay split in world history)
Aggie Fan wrote:
Dixon this weekend -
Friday - 45.68 (NCAA #2 and #3 World)
Saturday - 44.24 relay split (fastest indoor relay split in world history)
WTF