Am I just stupid or could they please-pretty-please just put a results link on the main website page? What purpose does a marathon website have if not to provide [prompt] access to results (and FAQ info and photos and registration and athlete tracking).
Molly ‘s performance at Boston convinced me she is the female Ritz, great at the 10k and half, but the full Thon just a little too long. Hasay will be in the mix. I think Craigg might be able to stay competitive until 2020but she is on the way down.
Great run for Kellyn. She trains hard and stays focused. I was impressed by her 4th in the OT 10,000m. It was just a matter of time.
[quote]bloviating wrote:
It’s mostly the tone of the Brojo posts. Absolutely arrogant geeks trying to be the first to say something. They must not realize that they are not Woj and their posts are not Woj Bombs but merely farts in a windy forest. /quote]
What? I'm acting like Woj because I pointed out there was a small tailwind?
Please.
In reality, it went like this. I saw that she won in 2:24 and wanted to give it big pub on the site as she's from a smaller group and we still have a soft spot for Flag.
I was going to add to the messageboard where that stood on the all-time list. I actually thought Grandma's was records eligible. Then I realized it wasn't records eligible and once I realized that I thought to myself, "I wonderif there was a tail wind as that time is fast." I didn't think there would be as you don't normally see winds out of the East. But it was out of the east so I added it in there.
Hounddogharrier wrote:
Molly ‘s performance at Boston convinced me she is the female Ritz, great at the 10k and half, but the full Thon just a little too long. Hasay will be in the mix. I think Craigg might be able to stay competitive until 2020but she is on the way down.
Meh. Did you see Cragg at NYC 2013? She had a bad race like Molly did at Boston. Fast forward, she's on the Olympic team in Rio, destroyed the field at the trials?
Do you realize how bad Boston conditions were? Especially for the best trained runners? The entire front of the race fell apart. Molly will be back. Boston shouldn't be used for any predictions of future performance for any runner. It was a unicorn year.
Very very impressive. She's another who showed up to every game and it finally paid off.
Technically not the traditional course...they had to make some changes due to construction.
Scorpion_runner wrote:
Molly has the fastest american 5k
Molly has the fastest american 10000m
Molly has the american half marathon record.
Those are huge indicators that Molly will be the fastest american female marathoner when it is all said and done. To not put her in the top 3 would just be outright insane.
No she won't. Marathon predicts marathon. Jordan will get the AR and no one will break that for a long time. Molly tops out at the half marathon- isn't made for the marathon, like Shalane isn't made for the marathon either (despite her NYC victory).
not a marathoner. wrote:
Scorpion_runner wrote:
Molly has the fastest american 5k
Molly has the fastest american 10000m
Molly has the american half marathon record.
Those are huge indicators that Molly will be the fastest american female marathoner when it is all said and done. To not put her in the top 3 would just be outright insane.
No she won't. Marathon predicts marathon. Jordan will get the AR and no one will break that for a long time. Molly tops out at the half marathon- isn't made for the marathon, like Shalane isn't made for the marathon either (despite her NYC victory).
You realize that S. Flanagan threw down a pretty fast time in Berlin a couple years ago, right? 2:21:14, I believe.
not a marathoner. wrote:
Scorpion_runner wrote:
Molly has the fastest american 5k
Molly has the fastest american 10000m
Molly has the american half marathon record.
Those are huge indicators that Molly will be the fastest american female marathoner when it is all said and done. To not put her in the top 3 would just be outright insane.
No she won't. Marathon predicts marathon. Jordan will get the AR and no one will break that for a long time. Molly tops out at the half marathon- isn't made for the marathon, like Shalane isn't made for the marathon either (despite her NYC victory).
No it doesn't. Some marathons are easier. Watch this for 2 minutes. I have high hopes for Huddle.
https://youtu.be/erswpH4s0Sk?t=4948vivalarepublica wrote:
Was there a pushy hug? wrote:
Any video of Josh Cox rushing in to hug her?
Lol, this made me laugh.
It only counts if he gets in between her and Hubby.
The video above plays where you need to see it. Watch from 1:22:00 to 1:24:00. Most of the coverage doesn't illustrate how bad Boston was. Watch the video and tell us that marathon predicts other performances.
Sloinnorcal wrote:
You realize that S. Flanagan threw down a pretty fast time in Berlin a couple years ago, right? 2:21:14, I believe.
Yeah, and her 10K and HM times say she should be faster than Deena, but she isn't. Molly isn't getting the AR. It's Jordan's to take- pure marathoner.
In 2004 Kellyn won the WI state 1600m in 5:01.35 and 2nd in the 3200 in 11:05. That same year she won the sectional 800m in 2:19.84 with Gwen Jorgenson 2nd. Jorgenson went on to take 4th at the state meet in 2:17. https://www.athletic.net/TrackAndField/Athlete.aspx?AID=5218428#!/L0
Crobar wrote:
vivalarepublica wrote:
Maybe the hubby took this picure of Josh and Kellyn.
Lol, this made me laugh.
It only counts if he gets in between her and Hubby.
Maybe the hubby took this picure of Josh and Kellyn.
https://twitter.com/JoshCoxzoomzoomzoom wrote:
. . . and yes, Grandma's is an olympic trials qualifier, still don't get why point-to-point with descent is allowed for OTQ but it's still a great marathon time
Two points:
(1) Many of the older Marathons are point to point because they are runs from a town outside a city to the city -- think Marathon to Athens. I am not a geography expert, but I would guess that many American cities are at a lower elevation than the surrounding areas (cities sprang up on bodies of water or in flatter areas for ease of transportation). In other words, these courses were not set up to help people "finally get their BQ."
(2) Technically, yes, Grandma's has a small net descent. In reality, it is a flat to gently rolling course where the only noticeable drop is when runners turn from the main drag in Duluth to go down to the lake at the finish at the 25 Mile mark.
Lip Kitten wrote:
Crobar wrote:
It only counts if he gets in between her and Hubby.
Maybe the hubby took this picure of Josh and Kellyn.
https://twitter.com/JoshCox
Good lord, he is everywhere.
Lip Kitten wrote:
Crobar wrote:
It only counts if he gets in between her and Hubby.
Maybe the hubby took this picure of Josh and Kellyn.
https://twitter.com/JoshCox
IT DOESNT MATTER. AN AGENT SHOULD NEVER BE IN THE PICTURE.
It is about the athlete. Joshy is a guy that barely dipped under 2:14 and is still starving for attention.
rojo wrote:
I didn't think there would be as you don't normally see winds out of the East. But it was out of the east so I added it in there.
Is that really true on the east coast? There's usually an offshore west wind? I'm not sure about that. Usually the wind is on-shore at any beach location. Ruining the surf. I bet grandma's usually has favorable winds.
Similarly, CIM is risky because the wind is usually from the West, on-shore on the west coast. Last year's CIM with East wind they got lucky.
And the people saying the wind doesn't matter know nothing about running.
It's pretty clear that there was a significant tailwind this year. Lots of big, big PRs in the top 100.