INTERESTING Observations of Japanese training in China

sorry didn't see that TJR had posted the same stats earlier...

Tell me:

Do you believe in the tooth fairy as well? Or just workouts consistent with a magical runner who could likely run a 3:20 mile?

Never said I believed it. In fact I started the post string with a "For what it is worth"...

The fact is no one actually does their training the way they tell it to reporters -- not exactly at least. Training is too variable to live and die by the details. What difference does it make if someone runs their easy days at 10 minutes per mile or 7 minutes per mile? Or if they run their quarters with 20 seconds rest or 25? The important factor is that he (like many before him) ran his easy days very, very easy and his hard days very, very hard.

I am always good for 1 ***ONE*** beer when i am in the right mood. It must be good beer, which rules out most standard American brews.

The best beer, IMHO, is BeerLao, the state-run Communist beer in LAOS. Nothing quite like sitting on the bank of the Mekhong river in Vientiane with my good friends, watching the boats, the sunset, having sticky rice, grilled chicken and a nice smmooooth BEER LAO.

There is a half marathon in Vientiane on 23December if anyone is interested.

jason

Quote From:

'Running to the Top' by Arthur Lydiard 1997 Meyer & Meyer Verlag, Aachen

Chapter 7, The Path to Full Potential page 41

"The first step has to be to develop the cardio and blood vascular systems to high steady state and you've got to get your muscular system into condition so you can add power and speed later without muscle pulls or other damage.

That means big initial mileage. You concentrate initially for several months on purely aerobic running. Fast aerobic running if possible, keeping the effort just below that point where it can overbalance into anerobic running. You must do as much of this aerobic running as you can. The minimum is three months. "

Lydiard (who everyone seems to respect) seems to be saying fast aerobic running here - this is very confusing but interesting none the less - any further comments anyone ?

Confused wrote, "Lydiard (who everyone seems to respect) seems to be saying fast aerobic running here - this is very confusing but interesting none the less - any further comments anyone ?"

It is not "fast", but can become fast with training.

I commented on this today in the "JasonDoesAsia/JK thread". (Too long to re-post here).

University runners maybe.

Most university's high priority is ekiden.And Hakone ekiden is the most important ekiden for most strong teams.And at Hakone ekiden they run about 220km course by 10 sections(each 20km - 24km).(Ise ekiden 106km by 8 sections,Izumo ekiden 44km by 6 sections,all three are men's ,women's women's one is not long )

It's so important that 5000m ,10000m ,sometimes 3000mSC runners all become 20km runners and they all train for 20km road for a long time.

We think it's not good,of course.But maybe good for marathon.

Molfin, you forgot to mention the incredible about the Hakone Ekiden:

220km of COLLEGIATE ROAD RUNNING.

LIVE. ON NATIONAL TV.

ALL DAY LONG.

ON NEW YEARS DAY!!

GAMBATTE!!!

yeah

1/1 new year corporation ekiden

1/2 Hakone ekiden 1st day

1/3 Hakone ekiden 2nd day

all national TV all day.

Anyway I got info.

5000m 3 of the fastest 135 5000m runners are Japanese in 2001.I espress this as 3/135.

And 0/50 in 2001 .10/150 in 2000.

10000m

40/130 3/50 in 2001 ,50/165 ,3/50 in 2000.

And one more important fact about 10000m.Now 10000m races are not held often.But in Japan,they are sometimes held.that owes much to this.

half marathon

30/125 ,9/50 in 2001.25/150 in 2000

marathon

22/150 ,8/50 in 2001 16/150 ,6/50 in 2000

Women

5000m

40/150 in 2001.25/150 in 2000m.Again 5000m is not held often in GL etc..But sometimes held in Japan.That owes to this.

10000m

50/150,20/50 in 2001,40/150, 9/50 in 2000

half marathon

65/150 ,18/50,in 2001 40/100,14 /50 in 2000

marathon

34/150 12/50 in 2001,30/150 ,11/50 in 2000.

these data are not accurate.

Kenyan men in 2001

17/50 in 1500m,25/50 in 5000m,23/50 in half marathon,,18/50 in marathon.

other Men's marathon in 2001

4/50 Spain,4/50 ethiopia,Italy 3/50

Depth is good.But I think it owes much to Japanese system.

Japanese record

100m 10,00 200m 20,16 400m 44,78,800m 1,46.8 1500m3:38,24 5000m13:13 10000m 27:35 ,half marathon 1:00:30,marathon2:06:51.

women

100m 11,36 200m 23,46 ,400m 52,95 ,800m2:02,23 1500m 4:10,5000m 14:55 10000m 30:50 half 1:06:43,marathon2:19:46.

How about ?most of middle distance are lame compared with AR ,aren't they?Which is good?

Bumpitty-bump-bump.