My God. Evan MF Jager just ran his last 2 laps in 2:03 and ran 8:01 to win the men's steeple

kh wrote:

Americans.

Richest country in the world.

Best drugs in the world.

Systemic doping from the best.

Systematic I believe is the word you're looking for. Just curious what country you might be from. Would you be comfortable in telling us?

Does anyone else secretly call him Jäger Bomb like I do?

Mad clown disease wrote:

kh wrote:

Americans.

Richest country in the world.

Best drugs in the world.

Systemic doping from the best.

Systematic I believe is the word you're looking for. Just curious what country you might be from. Would you be comfortable in telling us?

Actually, either systemic or systematic could be used in this context, though they have slightly different meanings. I think systemic was the right choice, as it suggests "system-wide" doping. Systematic would have a meaning closer to "methodical", or "system-based" doping. So either would work, but I think the choice of Kh was more precise.

Ekso wrote:

Mad clown disease wrote:

Systematic I believe is the word you're looking for. Just curious what country you might be from. Would you be comfortable in telling us?

Actually, either systemic or systematic could be used in this context, though they have slightly different meanings. I think systemic was the right choice, as it suggests "system-wide" doping. Systematic would have a meaning closer to "methodical", or "system-based" doping. So either would work, but I think the choice of Kh was more precise.

Fancy Bears is a non-story as people more or less understand off-scores need context and can't be read in isolation. But the "tainted-beef" and "passionate kissing" excuses on the other hand are a clearly indicator of systemic issues and a possible systematic program that Americans are getting away with.

And with that performance, Brit bookies shorten Jager's odds from 8/1 to 13/8.

When is the last time that a non African won the Monaco steeple?

Wow, running 8:01 with that kick at , I think he has a legit shot at Shaheen's record.

Sledge_hammer wrote:

Wow, running 8:01 with that kick at , I think he has a legit shot at Shaheen's record.

Probably not.

I prefer Jagermeister

He's still in danger in the kick because he doesn't have the acceleration that Kemboi in particular always had at World's and Olympics until last year. But if this is a fast race I don't see any present competitors being able to close the last two laps in 2:03 to 8:01 like he just did. In cool weather in London, we could see something special (substantially under 8) if the pace is quick to 2k. The Kenyans may have no incentive to help with the pace--but Conseslus does like a quick pace because he doesn't have the kind of dynamic kick that Kemboi always had.

Because there is "rojo" the co-founder

and a "Rojo" who just is registered.

AllStarCoach wrote:

He's done. Peaked too soon. Really bad idea racing that hard so close to the world championship. He'll be lucky to make the final in London.

Come on he has 2 weeks to recover

Since the fancy bears thing everything he does now is suspect

jenapharm wrote:

AllStarCoach wrote:

He's done. Peaked too soon. Really bad idea racing that hard so close to the world championship. He'll be lucky to make the final in London.

Come on he has 2 weeks to recover

A few people were missing in Monaco (Amos, Mo...), but the majority of the 800/1500/steeple medalists were there.

AllStarCoach wrote:

He's done. Peaked too soon. Really bad idea racing that hard so close to the world championship. He'll be lucky to make the final in London.

Running well in a penultimate race 2 weeks before a global championship is perfect. Peaking is not about one race, you are at your peak for time period, which be the later part of the summer.

Labentraub wrote:

Since the fancy bears thing everything he does now is suspect

Your ability to write coherent sentences is what is suspect.

AllStarCoach wrote:

He's done. Peaked too soon. Really bad idea racing that hard so close to the world championship. He'll be lucky to make the final in London.

Are you kidding me? World champs are in 2 weeks. His timing is fine. He'll get nice adaptations from that race and Schumacher will keep his workouts short and sharp. I bet Jager trained normally through Monaco. The taper starts now.

race video anywhere?

rocky mountain high wrote:

race video anywhere?