Running Group of Hobby Joggers in Boulder, CO gets all Running Groups banned

Boulder is closed for service wrote:

Did anyone see this twitter exchange between Lee Troop and one of the pace coaches for a local running group. Apparently, the track in Boulder everyone works out on, pros and recreational runners, is now closed to the public because the recreational group would show up with way too many people and clog up all the lanes. Pretty interesting exchange:

https://twitter.com/runtroopy/status/730252066573012993

Where is douche canoe formerd6 on this one? I hate that guy. I hate you formerd3

get used to it.. wrote:

Yawn. What a freaking bitch fight. Public schools receive public taxpayer funding. Sure tracks and tennis courts can and should be reserved for HS team use and for PE during school hours but should never close aside from this. I would jump the fence too.

Do you also complain about your tax dollars going to resurfacing a track when it is worn out and needs to be replaced every 5 years?

mytruth wrote:

Revolution Running got everyone banned. They are a large (not sure of exact numbers but maybe 100-200 people) for profit running group.

What is a "for profit" running group?

just wanted a quality session wrote:

see my thread below on this type of behavior.

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=7233934

just wanted a quality session wrote:

this coffin dodger waltzes over to me and says, it's Sheila's 50th birthday today so she's running 50 laps of the track and there will be quite a few people joining her.

@rmvermillion is Sheila's son.

@rmvermillion looks and sounds like another dick making a dollar out of some gullible people, he should get together with Marlon and Rossi. https://twitter.com/rmvermillion

Let me axe you a question wrote:

mytruth wrote:

Revolution Running got everyone banned. They are a large (not sure of exact numbers but maybe 100-200 people) for profit running group.

What is a "for profit" running group?

it's a group run by some guy that calls himself a 'fitness guru' and makes money out of the flock of losers that pay for his 'advice'

When I moved to boulder several years ago, I emailed the coach at Niwot High School and asked if I could use the track. He replied that I was free to use it whenever I wanted, even during school hours. Well, a group like the one described by the OP must have been inconsiderately using the track there because they eventually put up a sign that said you can only use the track after school hours.

I've only used the Fairview High track once but I know most Boulder runners use that track. It's a shame that some dummies ruined it for everyone. Boulder High keeps their track under lock and key I believe. The CU track is only open to the public twice a week in the morning for a few hours, and no spikes are allowed.

Boulder is a strange place. A running mecca without a public track.

Quickly people, we must clog up another track!

I'm all for recreational groups inspiring non-experienced, non-fit runners to get out the door. But there is a big problem when those groups don't control their size at one workout, especially when they show up to the track on the busiest workout day of the week for the other groups in town. They not only take over the area, but show lack of respect to the other groups that are also trying to utilize the space.

From what I've seen from this group, they usually run across at least 6 lanes, all shoulder abreast. There's at least 80 of them each time they show up spread all around the track. And they have no idea how to move out of lane 1 when someone faster yells "track". I just go somewhere else now when I show up to the track and this group is there. It's the adult equivalent of an adolescent fun run group to inspire fitness, but during the time that the pro groups and competitive running groups show up to do their interval sessions. I don't blame the hobby joggers as they are listening to where their coaches want them to run. This is poor leadership across the board from all the coaches at Revolution Running.

This is a mixed bag. There are a number of tracks in my area that I can no longer use because walkers and hobby joggers don't know or pay attention to track etiquette. One walker actually told me that a posted sign stated that joggers should use the outer lanes. I explained to him that I was doing intervals, but he had no idea what that meant. He hogged up the inside lane. It was easier to just let it go. He wasn't there the next time I showed up and as far as I know, never came back.

Of course then the same track was redone and closed to public use unless you got a pass each day. This is a community college track. Last time I vote for any community college bond issues.

You can't just walk into a school campus. You have to check in and get a visitor pass.

The Donger wrote:

You can't just walk into a school campus. You have to check in and get a visitor pass.

Have you read the posts here and the Twitter link?, seems you can in Boulder, or you could, until the idiots took it over and spoilt it for everyone.

Lol, a hobby jogger's worst enemy are hobby joggers.

That's why they all crowd letsrun.com to get away from the mess at Runnersworld.com, and hope to differentiate themselves.

Sad.

WTF BouLDer? wrote:

that kind of passive-aggressive BS on Twitter.

its called subtweeting fam

Get yer facts straight wrote:

just wanted a quality session wrote:

see my thread below on this type of behavior.

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=7233934

priority should always be given to faster workouts and tracks really shouldn't be used for jogging unless warming up where the outer lanes should be used. Why do some people have so much trouble understanding this?

Also, While the public pays for the track is is for the school's use. Just because the public pays for the schools library does that give anyone a right to go in and start reading? No.

There are other libraries for the public. Do we prohibit school children from visiting them because they have libraries at school? No, that'd be absurd. Yet there are no public tracks, well there might be a handful somewhere, but not boulder, and not any town USA. Where is a runner to work out? Despite letting school children, teachers, even well to do principals who could get into the school library even on saturday if they wanted, use the public library, we don't turn around and let the public use school tracks. You hit the nail on the head, but got everything backwards.

I really call BS on the whole situation.

We all want the track open for everyone unless someone else is using it. At my old house I used to run through a paved trail pretty often year round and hated the spring summer when all of a sudden the path I've spent time on in the dead of winter with ice, a foot of snow, and / -40 was suddenly jam packed with walking groups. But that's life.

If these guys are really pushing for OT and stand a chance they should pony up enough $ or get sponsored by someone local to get CU track time or something.

The universities near me would without a doubt have time available for Olympic caliber athletes.

Back to the story it's dumb what I've seen runners do in a group. Some have run red lights and proceeded to yell at the cars for going forward.

It has already been established that one group in the twitter discussion has several members that Have qualified for the OTs. Plus there are a half dozen or more similar groups that also have OT qualifiers. CU used to have more have an open track policy, but over the years they've cut way back to the stated 2X 2 hours a week. Not likely they'll relent for other clubs. Athletes like Coburn and Simpson are under Wetmore's coaching, so they probably get a bye.

Clubs in the area have tried to push for a community track and no doubt would be willing to pay for use, but the city/county would have to pay for the bulk of its construction and maintenance.

Tragedy of the commons. But short term lots of other tracks to use, if they are willing to drive 20-60 minutes.

This is interesting. Where I live, you couldn't pay people to use the tracks outside of kids who run track. The AD was excited when I had a open track meet, they even had a newspaper spread on it.

More the reason to stay away from Boulder and head up Fort Collins and Laramie. There's something to be said for not being in a hyper active running town.

TruthSayer wrote:

More the reason to stay away from Boulder and head up Fort Collins and Laramie . .

Lol. 9/10 made me respond. Funny joke, fam.