test2 wrote:
Having more testosterone is an advantage. Why don't women's bodies just produce more?
It's not an advantage for women. Women produce a perfect amount of testosterone, duh. Evolution crafted us into perfect performers for whatever we do and there are no physiological trade-offs.
dingle wrote:
test2 wrote:Having more testosterone is an advantage. Why don't women's bodies just produce more?
It's not an advantage for women. Women produce a perfect amount of testosterone, duh. Evolution crafted us into perfect performers for whatever we do and there are no physiological trade-offs.
EXACTLY
What did Caster Semenya evolve to do?
go nuts gentlemen wrote:
What did Caster Semenya evolve to do?
to be perfectly balanced.
IT'S NATURE!
Ok, now back to jeff's dumb idea.
Yeah, after that convoluted shit storm, perhaps we could go back to the original question. Gems like this thread are why I go to the letsrun forums. The entertainment value is priceless.
overthinking running technique wrote:
Ok, now back to jeff's dumb idea.
overthinking running technique wrote:
Ok, now back to jeff's dumb idea.
your username answers thejeff's question
I think he asks things that someone who doesn't run more than 30 mpw asks.
snsknnssnns wrote:
overthinking running technique wrote:Ok, now back to jeff's dumb idea.
your username answers thejeff's question
I think he asks things that someone who doesn't run more than 30 mpw asks.
When you're waiting hopefully for The Lord to tell you to kill your son you tend to miss out on the basics..
Blood of Isaac wrote:
snsknnssnns wrote:your username answers thejeff's question
I think he asks things that someone who doesn't run more than 30 mpw asks.
When you're waiting hopefully for The Lord to tell you to kill your son you tend to miss out on the basics..
rofl you mean the floating zombie son?
keeping it low wrote:
[quote]Jon Orange wrote:
You can't discuss these things because you don't have the knowledge or interest. Stop pretending that you have some great insight. I'm asking for serious debate, not childish crap.
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I have a PhD in neurophysiology. I ridicule you for the following reasons: (1)because I find you and your ilk to be offensive and deserving of ridicule; (2) there is nothing to debate, your point is ridiculous; and (3) I understand that with you and your ilk that "you can't cure stupid", (this is especially so when that "stupid" is an integral part of a story they invent to create a version of themselves/identity that allows them to hide their various deeply routed insecurities and fears), therefore I have no reasonable expectation that any amount of science and/or common sense would change your mind about anything, i.e., it would be a waste of my time to explain anything to you. In summary, I don't intend to waste my time explaining simple concepts to someone as stupid and self deluded as you are; it would be a frustrating endeavor to do anything other than enjoy myself by mocking your incredible stupidity.
Well you might have a PhD, but you are unaware of the scientific method.
And your PhD might be in neurophysiology, but somehow I doubt that very much. Because if it's true, then you need to learn some basic neuroscience. And you should start with the consideration that 'running economy' which refers to the economical use of oxygen, is determined by neural factors.
However, I can see from your post that an intelligent debate on the subject will not be engaged in by you.
Gene Summons wrote:
Jon Orange wrote:You're avoiding the issue. How does blood doping increase biomechanical efficiency? It doesn't. How could that possibly happen.
And why can't you understand that there is a limit to how much heat we can produce? And how much glycogen we use? It's controlled homeostatically.
You can't see how dogmatic your opinions are and you can't accept them being challenged. Look up homeostasis and educate yourself. And dont' preach to me about genetics or VO2 max when you don't even understand that those athletes with the highest VO2 max have the lowest oxygen economy.
You're the one saying it increases efficiency. Guys like Vino get a few pints extra a boom, the next day they win the TT.
Has to be efficiency, right?
Once again hard exercise is not a state of homeostasis. Not too hard to figure out.
Have you seen Geb and Tergat at the finish of Atlanta and Sydney?
That's not homeostasis.
I didn't say that EPO/blood doping increases efficiency. You're the one saying that. It's nonsense.
You need to look up the word homeostasis.
Tergat's tactics were not as good as Gebreselassie's.
Jon Orange wrote:
Here's a starter; If having more red blood cells is such an advantage, then why doesn't the body just produce more?
Isn't this the entire issue with PED's? - that they enable the body to perform at a higher level than it can do when operating with just its "natural" production of hormones, cells, etc? This may not be optimal for long-term health as the body may try to readjust itself over the long term following PED use but we are talking about a short-term objective of trying to push the body to the extreme limits of athletic performance.
Jon Orange wrote:
Gene Summons wrote:You're the one saying it increases efficiency. Guys like Vino get a few pints extra a boom, the next day they win the TT.
Has to be efficiency, right?
Once again hard exercise is not a state of homeostasis. Not too hard to figure out.
Have you seen Geb and Tergat at the finish of Atlanta and Sydney?
That's not homeostasis.
I didn't say that EPO/blood doping increases efficiency. You're the one saying that. It's nonsense.
You need to look up the word homeostasis.
Tergat's tactics were not as good as Gebreselassie's.
No, you actually did say that people who blood doped had to pedal with better efficiency as the only explanation of how their performance increased.
YOU need to look up homeostasis. Having foreign blood in your body and racing away from the pack is not said condition.
You're deliberately misrepresenting.
Efficiency is neural.
You need to look up homeostatis and stop this childishness. Heat production and glycogen depletion are limiting factors.
Jon Orange wrote:
You're deliberately misrepresenting.
Efficiency is neural.
You need to look up homeostatis and stop this childishness. Heat production and glycogen depletion are limiting factors.
So how does a guy go from dragging his butt to winning overnight after a fresh bag of blood?
Wouldn't his homeostasis be upset with all those foreign bodies in his blood?
It probably wasn't even the right type of blood.
People have repeatedly mentioned cooling and re-fueling. Those are non issues.
I want intelligent debate. You can't provide it.
Jon Orange wrote:
I want intelligent debate. You can't provide it.
I don't think we can find another bag of rocks that can type.
Can you explain what homo stay sis means and why it shows you aren't retarded?
Lance Armstrong is probably kicking himself right now. He could have won without all the EPO and blood doping!!!
Intelligent debate kid intelligent debate. Can you do that?
fizziologist wrote:
Jon Orange wrote:Here's a starter; If having more red blood cells is such an advantage, then why doesn't the body just produce more?
Isn't this the entire issue with PED's? - that they enable the body to perform at a higher level than it can do when operating with just its "natural" production of hormones, cells, etc? This may not be optimal for long-term health as the body may try to readjust itself over the long term following PED use but we are talking about a short-term objective of trying to push the body to the extreme limits of athletic performance.
Irrational thinking that doesn't answer my question. If it was an advantage to have more RBCs as you train more, your body would produce more.
You're thinking in the drug obsessive way, not grasping the reality of how awesome your body is. Your negative emotions over ride your positive emotions. Your feeling of inferiority as an athlete is surely all in your head?
You are only as good as your fitness. But that is something people don't want to accept.
Jon Orange wrote:
Intelligent debate kid intelligent debate. Can you do that?
Yeah:
homeostasis has nothing to do with running fast
EPO and blood doping work, so having more RBCs is better, and you are wrong.
done.