Perhaps have a conversation with him about getting permission before using the car, and not using it in the middle of the night. Then get his agreement to this, by discussion and reasoning, but not by yelling or coercion.
Perhaps have a conversation with him about getting permission before using the car, and not using it in the middle of the night. Then get his agreement to this, by discussion and reasoning, but not by yelling or coercion.
The problem with postponing your child getting his/her driver's license is that it also has an adverse affect on you, the parent. Parents have many more freedoms when they do not have to drive their children around EVERYWHERE.
furious wrote:
Real OP here-
I utilized a technique where a fluffy, wet towel is placed in the subjects mouth and over their nose and held there until they begin to lose consciousness. At this point, the towel is removed and the idea is they will confess to whatever they did. It feels remarkably like drowning, and I was inspired to try it after hearing of water boarding at Guantanamo Bay, which led to my invention of a less intense, actually legal drowning experience. Anyways, my son admitted to taking the car in order to drive to a gas station where he had agreed to exchange 75$ of my hard earned money for a "E-Cigarette"
I figure the ordeal I put him through in order to learn this is pretty severe punishment in and of itself, so I decided to let him off with being grounded for a week and no phone for two, albeit with the understanding being that if he continues to behave like that, the punishments will be far more severe.
That idea of standing on a corner with a sign was pretty great though, might have to give it a whirl if he misbehaves again!
10/10
Beat his ass.
furious wrote:
I actually thought about that. Postponing him getting his license will hurt him. Grounding him wont do any good because he rarely goes out. He is a 3 sport athlete so he has practice almost every day throughout the school year. He comes home does his homework and goes to bed. He occasionally goes to movies or a dance with his girlfriend. Except for sports, he stays at home so he wouldnt give a shitt if I grounded him. I could make him quit the basketball team but that might be counter productive. I dont want him to have a lot of free time.
So a 15 year old who never goes out, waits until your asleep and takes your car? That makes no sense.
Whether you want to admit it or not, you don't know a lot about your son. There is no "punishment" which will stop this kind of activity and your son needs to know this is unacceptable and you mean immediate business about it being stopped.
Tell him that if you awake during the night and the car is missing you will report the car stolen and allow the police to take care of the matter.....and then follow through.
Had to do it wrote:
Tell him that if you awake during the night and the car is missing you will report the car stolen and allow the police to take care of the matter.....and then follow through.
Don't threaten your son.
Only a terrible person would treat someone so badly.
furious wrote:
I'm really pissed off and I want to beat his ass but that is frowned upon these days. He is a good kid who does well in school and he never has been in trouble but I cant let him get away with this. Taking away his phone doesnt seem like its enough.
YOU sound like the douche- not your son. Steal? As in he wasn't going to return it??? Yes, he's only 15, shouldn't be driving, nor have taken the car. These need to be addressed. But like getting drunk underage, it happens. What SHOULDN'T happen is you the adult labeling your son as a thief, when he didn't steal.
Steal: take (another person's property) without permission or legal right and WITHOUT INTENDING TO RETURN IT.
ttc wrote:Steal? As in he wasn't going to return it??? Yes, he's only 15, shouldn't be driving, nor have taken the car. These need to be addressed. But like getting drunk underage, it happens. What SHOULDN'T happen is you the adult labeling your son as a thief, when he didn't steal.
Steal: take (another person's property) without permission or legal right and WITHOUT INTENDING TO RETURN IT.
Don't be an idiot. The kid stole the car. If I remove a shirt from a store for a day without paying for it and without the store's consent, that is stealing. Even if I returned it the very next day unworn.
According to you, there is no word for a person who takes something without the owner's consent but intends to return it...
ekw wrote:
ttc wrote:Steal? As in he wasn't going to return it??? Yes, he's only 15, shouldn't be driving, nor have taken the car. These need to be addressed. But like getting drunk underage, it happens. What SHOULDN'T happen is you the adult labeling your son as a thief, when he didn't steal.Steal: take (another person's property) without permission or legal right and WITHOUT INTENDING TO RETURN IT.
Don't be an idiot. The kid stole the car. If I remove a shirt from a store for a day without paying for it and without the store's consent, that is stealing. Even if I returned it the very next day unworn.
According to you, there is no word for a person who takes something without the owner's consent but intends to return it...
ITS CALLED BORROWING! I SHOULD RKO YOU FOR YOUR STUPIDITY
Yeah... that's not borrowing. Borrowing requires consent.
It seems like there is a reasonable doubt as to whether he actually stole the car. Memory is surprisingly fallible, I think it may be equally likely that you just misplaced the keys and changed the radio and forgot. When I was a kid I payed great attention to details like this that could incriminate me, if your kid has a brain he probably would too. I would probably let him off this time instead of placing your memory over his integrity, and keep an eye on the car's mileage in the future.
Make him cover himself in peanut butter, then run through a busy street screaming, "Jelly!"
furious wrote:
I'm really pissed off and I want to beat his ass but that is frowned upon these days...
This is what's wrong with society. "That is frowned upon these days" give me a break. Discipline him! No one is ever too old to get punished, especially if they deserve it. However, before you do, I suggest you take some time to gather your thoughts and get your emotions in check so that when you actually do discipline him, you do not do it out of anger. THAT'S the difference between beating a kid's ass and disciplining them. Also, ground the misfit. And tell them that if they want to use your car, they need to get a job. They want to drive? They're going to need money to put gas and pay for the car's maintenance.
Make him buy and use two tickets to some "lame" concert.
ex.
Rochambeau.
Maybe he didn't take your car but used it as a cone of silence for sexting his girl OR using the car as a fap cave for his autoerotic activities.
furious wrote:
I'm really pissed off and I want to beat his ass but that is frowned upon these days. He is a good kid who does well in school and he never has been in trouble but I cant let him get away with this. Taking away his phone doesnt seem like its enough.
The fact that you are even asking on this site shows that it is too late for you or your son. What the hell have you been doing for 15 years that he thought that it was okay?
I'd make him work it off. Not sure what this would entail. Maybe volunteering (a lot) during the holidays after school and on the weekends. Some sort of work volunteer program for school age kids.
Sweat equity....
ekw wrote:
ttc wrote:Steal? As in he wasn't going to return it??? Yes, he's only 15, shouldn't be driving, nor have taken the car. These need to be addressed. But like getting drunk underage, it happens. What SHOULDN'T happen is you the adult labeling your son as a thief, when he didn't steal.Steal: take (another person's property) without permission or legal right and WITHOUT INTENDING TO RETURN IT.
Don't be an idiot. The kid stole the car. If I remove a shirt from a store for a day without paying for it and without the store's consent, that is stealing. Even if I returned it the very next day unworn.
According to you, there is no word for a person who takes something without the owner's consent but intends to return it...
DEFINITION:
Steal: take (another person's property) without permission or legal right and WITHOUT INTENDING TO RETURN IT.
Make him drive the car until he throws up.