sparrkie wrote:
This girl is lucky she can forgo a scholarship and continue to pay for school. I know a lot of kids who hate running for their college team, but they do so to pay for school.
There are other ways to pay for school besides running. The kids who do it and hate it sound dumb.
In interviews, Coach Miltenberg always talks about his individualized training programs. He is a good coach whose former team won nationals. I think you have to assume he would be willing to tailor the program to a top athlete like Cayla, so long as there was a valid reason for any differences from the standard practices. Why would any coach with half a brain risk ruining such a star?
That said, I don't know the girl, but some top kids come in to college with an entitled attitude, thinking they should call the shots on schedule etc.. Some of them did that in high school because they were the darlings. And some had private coaches or were coached by mom/dad and so were used to being the center of a personal coaching universe. That is not going to be replicated at a top ranked, Div. 1 university. XC is a team sport, and everyone else was a former high school standout too. There has to be a boss and the coach is it. If you can't live with that, then you need to leave. Some kids leave.
There are 49 athletes on the Stanford roster. One would doubt that there are 49 individualized training programs. If Stanford is anything like the D-1 school where I ran, there are probably a dozen or so training groups in which 4 or 5 individuals do substantially the same training on most days. There simply aren't the resources to do otherwise.
Definitely in agreement that personalized coaching "is not going to be replicated at a top ranked Div. 1 university" since university team coaches and individual personal coaches have different objectives.
Speaking from personal experience here...I went to a D1 school in the SEC (I know it is no "Stanford"). I decided not to return this semester having been there for 1 and a 1/2 years as I felt it was not working out for me. I'm a 32:50/15:40 girl so I don't think it was unreasonable for me to ask for a common ground agreement with the coaches training program as I had a lot to offer the team in track and XC. Personally, the coaching was not individualized enough from what I was used to and the coach was not willing to negotiate on any of his program (which I respect hence why I left). Bottom line is the team training environment isn't for everyone, and some people are more successful working on an individual basis with a coach. Good luck to Cayla if this is the route she has endeavored upon
bingo
Stanford isn't a successful program. There is a list of great runners who fail to impress while at Stanford. Kroger Chapus, Cuffe,Hatton...
Hogzz wrote:
Speaking from personal experience here...I went to a D1 school in the SEC (I know it is no "Stanford"). I decided not to return this semester having been there for 1 and a 1/2 years as I felt it was not working out for me. I'm a 32:50/15:40 girl so I don't think it was unreasonable for me to ask for a common ground agreement with the coaches training program as I had a lot to offer the team in track and XC. Personally, the coaching was not individualized enough from what I was used to and the coach was not willing to negotiate on any of his program (which I respect hence why I left). Bottom line is the team training environment isn't for everyone, and some people are more successful working on an individual basis with a coach. Good luck to Cayla if this is the route she has endeavored upon
Come back Natosha
+1
Johnny Manziel wrote:
Hogzz wrote:Speaking from personal experience here...I went to a D1 school in the SEC (I know it is no "Stanford"). I decided not to return this semester having been there for 1 and a 1/2 years as I felt it was not working out for me. I'm a 32:50/15:40 girl so I don't think it was unreasonable for me to ask for a common ground agreement with the coaches training program as I had a lot to offer the team in track and XC. Personally, the coaching was not individualized enough from what I was used to and the coach was not willing to negotiate on any of his program (which I respect hence why I left). Bottom line is the team training environment isn't for everyone, and some people are more successful working on an individual basis with a coach. Good luck to Cayla if this is the route she has endeavored upon
Come back Natosha
Natosha was faster.
hm.. according to TFRRS, fastest in the SEC have been 33:28 and 15:44 the past two years..
Considering her parents paid $45,000 a yr for hs money isn't an issue. She better become a brains surgeon or she'll never break even.
So back to running related topics, is Cayla still running or racing? Did she do any races on her own this summer or spring? If she's still attending Stanford, is she going to run in their upcoming xc meet unattached?
lsskk wrote:
Is she going to run in their upcoming xc meet unattached?
I'm certain that she won't be allowed to run the invite if she has left the team.
Bingo.