Centrowitz racing 800m in London DL, predictions?

Dave Wottle wrote:

Absolutely no way he touches sub 1:45

Does anyone think before they make predictions or do they just pick a number that sounds nice?

We all (should) know he doesn't have the 800 speed of wheating, or manzano for that matter.

We all know?

Horsespit!

It is a mystery, as Cento has not run many 800's, nor has he focused on running one at any specific time, for time.

Additionally, Centro has always run his PR's off of racing. Racing to win. Not just being in the race, and getting pulled along without trying to be a factor in the race.

The only possible exception to this was WC's, where he smartly ran for Bronze... He knew he was out classed, and he knew he had had a monstrously long season.

We also don't know how much fitness he lost and how much he's regained.

The way he runs such a measured, paced 1500, I am not even sure it is smart for him to race an 800 at this point.

Jetlag could determine a lot.

It's a mystery.

When fit, he is certainly capable of 1:44.5+

His 1500 times indicate he is in the fitness range of guys who have done his 1500 times and 1:44.'s

1:47.4

rupp-certified saladbar wrote:

Perspectivation wrote:

he's not an 800-1500 guy so much as a 1500-3000-5000 (eventually) guy IMHO.

If anything, he is a STEEPLE guy. Think about it!

Why do none of our truly athletic distance runner step into the steeple? Centro is made for it!

Centro in the Steeplechase is an idiot suggestion.

You're as dumb as your made up handle here.

MikeProw wrote:

He needs to run at least sub 1:44 to have any chance at all. Alan Webb ran 1:43 and finished 7th in the world.

Alan Webb could have had PRs of 1:40 and 3:25 and still find a way to finish 7th in the world that year.

Whatever Matthew runs, he may think of Addi Bile's 1:46 last 800 surprise win over Steve Cram in the '87 Worlds 1500. Keep it flowing M.C.

1:47.1

to me Centro runs pretty stiff & upright (that's what she said!). he's definitely smooth, but his stride seems a bit robotic. thus I can't imagine him being all that smooth over the barriers. but what the hell do I know.

rupp-certified saladbar wrote:

Perspectivation wrote:

he's not an 800-1500 guy so much as a 1500-3000-5000 (eventually) guy IMHO.

If anything, he is a STEEPLE guy. Think about it!

Why do none of our truly athletic distance runner step into the steeple? Centro is made for it!

wow, coach d, you are an idiot.

Whatever Coach D's opinions are- Your kind of posts are the worst. ANY running opinion is fine. But trolling like you're doing has no place. (Trolling is to strictly draw the ire or attention of others.) BTW, if Centro is in form to close in :51 again- Then 1:44.9. 1500M medalists are fast 800M'er runners.

You're an absolutely insane racist, and a loser.

Try not to think about killing yourself when you realize what a dick you are on the internet.

the tooth hurts wrote:

Some BS...

Centro will remain a bad ass american-born runner, who slayed that great Letsrun adversary Lagat, won a bronze in the marquee distance event, but not the savior of American distance running. That is up to Rupp or another full white from US, Australia or New Zealand.

Couldn't he also be from New Jersey?

sub 1:42

This man does 1500m so an 800 so be nothing!

Corrected wrote:

Additionally, Centro has always run his PR's off of racing. Racing to win. Not just being in the race, and getting pulled along without trying to be a factor in the race.

Here is the race where he set his 1500m PR:

3:34.46 - 10th place

Looked like he was just getting pulled along and never tried to be a factor in the race.

Whatever he runs this 800 in, it won't have any bearing on how he races at the Games.

This video shows great splits from the 1500m at Worlds.

He crossed 700m at 1:46.5.

1100m at 2:16.5.

Last 800m 1:49.6.

Last 600m 1:19.6 (1:46.9 pace).

Also, keep in mind that he routinely closed in 51-52 last year even far away from peak.

With that said, he could run 1:44-45 at World's last year, prob 1:46 right now.

Rupple stiltskin wrote:

MikeProw wrote:

He needs to run at least sub 1:44 to have any chance at all. Alan Webb ran 1:43 and finished 7th in the world.

Alan Webb could have had PRs of 1:40 and 3:25 and still find a way to finish 7th in the world that year.

QFT

1:47 flat!

We have to remember that coming back from knee surgery he only started doing major speed stuff in may. Im gonna say 146 at the fastest. Once he is in better race shape and sharp ill say he could def run in the 144 neighborhood.

toro wrote:

Corrected wrote:

Additionally, Centro has always run his PR's off of racing. Racing to win. Not just being in the race, and getting pulled along without trying to be a factor in the race.

Here is the race where he set his 1500m PR:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzpUyr8JXEU

3:34.46 - 10th place

Looked like he was just getting pulled along and never tried to be a factor in the race.

Whatever he runs this 800 in, it won't have any bearing on how he races at the Games.

This is a case where he was having to peak twice in the track season, and at this time, he was racing himself back into shape -- he was also being smart, not running over his head.

Generally speaking what the OP said is true.

rippev wrote:

I'm going with 1:48.42

We have an exact winner!