Jogger murdered

asdfsdafsd wrote:

Canada borders the US. Our countries are very similar with almost identical pop culture influences and societal norms.

We have outlawed handguns. We have a very low murder rate.

Gee I wonder if there is a corelation?

Do you have a Detroit in Canada?

Magic 8 Ball wrote:

asdfsdafsd wrote:

Canada borders the US. Our countries are very similar with almost identical pop culture influences and societal norms.

We have outlawed handguns. We have a very low murder rate.

Gee I wonder if there is a corelation?

Do you have a Detroit in Canada?

Actually, they have a city just a few miles away across the river and there is almost never anyone killed by a gun there

lolz wrote:

source? are you really saying that 1 in every 200 people has defended themselves from violent crime with a gun? maybe you misread and it said 1.5 thousand?

It was made up by the NRA, there is no source.

I think it is imporatnt to remember that it's an indiividuals responsibilty to protect him or herself..the goveronment will not protect you from a violent crime nor will your local police force. In fact, it is case law that states this!

regarding numbers they all seem to be padded on both sides of the argument!!!

More Americans are buying guns than ever before...there is a big movement to put more guns in the hands of law abiding citizens...

many states in this nation want you to own a gun!!

Then of course there is NJ and NYC where only criminals carry guns...

Gee what is Canada missing that the US has plenty of??? Oh yeah large urban ghettos with a bunch of hip hopping uneducated criminals.

Example: Of 1,662 murders committed in New York City during 2003-2005, more than 90% were committed by people with criminal records.

until a couple years ago DC had banned handguns for the past 30 years. that city has historically had low murder rates. oh wait, the opposite?

maybe the issue isnt gun control, but something larger. idk

Supporting the second amendment is your right and that is cool, but arguing that Canadians might be murdered less if they had more guns does not follow from that.

Magic 8 Ball wrote:

asdfsdafsd wrote:

Canada borders the US. Our countries are very similar with almost identical pop culture influences and societal norms.

We have outlawed handguns. We have a very low murder rate.

Gee I wonder if there is a corelation?

Do you have a Detroit in Canada?

Not to the same degree - Gee I wonder if there is a corelation?

troof be told wrote:

I moved overseas for work to a country with very tight gun laws and virtually no guns in the public sphere. After my first contract finished I chose to stay, largely because it is the first time in my life I have really felt free in my day-to-day life. Americans have NO idea what kind of basic freedom they are giving up by choosing to allow guns to be readily available. You can't understand what freedom really is until you live somewhere where the possibility of being randomly gunned down is not a part of your everyday reality.

Mind saying what country you live in? The demographic makeup in the country can make a big difference in the crime rate whether guns are legal or not. Take DC and Chicago - both have very strict guns laws, but still very high crime rates.

I think they would be murded less and not a victim of a violent crime if they owned a gun..

It's just an endless debate right?

troof be told wrote:

rethink it wrote:

Security is not freedom.

Neither is living in fear of being shot.

What kind of neighborhood do you live in where you live in fear of being shot? I would move.

MOST people in the US don't live in fear of anything.

SOME people fear everything.

Having grown up in Raytown and run thousands of miles in town during my lifetime, at all hours of the day, I can say this is troublesome but unfortunately not surprising. A few years ago there was a similar story of a man riding his bike to work in the morning that was gunned down with a shotgun by a guy who "was bored". Both of these events happened on runnign routes I frequented. Luckily I have since moved out of Raytown, but my parents still live there and my old man still goes out for a daily trot and stories like this scare me.

troof be told wrote:

I moved overseas for work to a country with very tight gun laws and virtually no guns in the public sphere. After my first contract finished I chose to stay, largely because it is the first time in my life I have really felt free in my day-to-day life. Americans have NO idea what kind of basic freedom they are giving up by choosing to allow guns to be readily available. You can't understand what freedom really is until you live somewhere where the possibility of being randomly gunned down is not a part of your everyday reality.

oh my god, you're right! i feel so oppressed here... i wish all the guns would just become extinct overnight so i can truly understand freedom

asdfsdafsd wrote:

Canada borders the US. Our countries are very similar with almost identical pop culture influences and societal norms.

We have outlawed handguns. We have a very low murder rate.

Gee I wonder if there is a corelation?

Gee, I wonder if you are comparing apples to oranges? Canada only has a populations of 33.5 million people. Of that number only 2.5% are Black. When Canada is overrun with illegal immigrants and when 90% of all Black children are born into single parent homes, get back to us. Gun laws have been complete failures in the urban areas.

Rbyrne wrote:

I think they would be murded less and not a victim of a violent crime if they owned a gun..

We respectfully disagree on this. Even in the wild West, City of Dodge carrying of firearms was prohibited. Made sense, when the cowboys got drunk, they'd just punch each other. Everybody would wake up the next day. Hungover and bruised, but alive.

Thanks God this guys was in Canada where he didn't have a gun. Let's ban knives too.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/05/17/bus-attacker-wins-right-to-leave-mental-hospital/

demographics wrote:

Gee, I wonder if you are comparing apples to oranges? Canada only has a populations of 33.5 million people. Of that number only 2.5% are Black. When Canada is overrun with illegal immigrants and when 90% of all Black children are born into single parent homes, get back to us. Gun laws have been complete failures in the urban areas.

Illegalizing guns is a heck of a lot harder once the guns are already out there. So we illegalize guns, then what? The government searches every home in the country and confiscates all handguns? Or do we just trust the owners of all legally and illegally purchased firearms to simply hand the things in?

The poster who suggested illegalizing guns is suggesting that we create a law that we know full well we can't enforce. That's just dumb.

Mr Magoo wrote:

The states that have the severest restrictions of gun purchases have the highest rate of gun related homicides. You could ban all gun sales, but the criminal fraternity would still have no problem whatsoever getting hold of guns. Remember what happened during Prohibition?

This is false..jack-As-s

Carter was a Loser wrote:

Mr Magoo wrote:

The states that have the severest restrictions of gun purchases have the highest rate of gun related homicides. You could ban all gun sales, but the criminal fraternity would still have no problem whatsoever getting hold of guns. Remember what happened during Prohibition?

This is false..jack-As-s

He is off a little bit but strict gun laws on law abiding people will not stop gun violence....

Here you go: In fact, among the top 20 states with the strictest gun laws, as rated by the Legal Community Against Violence, seven have death rates from guns that are higher than the national average.

If you want to bring down gun violence exponentially, try keeping criminals in jail...Do a violent crime with a gun--go away for life!!!! Get caught with an illegal gun

forget about serving 2.5 years put them away for 10 years--that is how you send a message if you really want to bring down gun violence..