Thread about roommate coming out of the closet, and feeling uncomfortable

'To clarify, my roommate is female this was random rooming'

Fancy going halves on a b@stard?

Brian wrote:

Why is it wrong? Because Jesus said so? (He didn't). Grow up. A fixed percentage of people are gay and didn't choose to be gay.

Tolerance is, however, required. In this debate, it is the religious who are seeking special rights, not gay people.

If enough moral people stood up for what is good and right, we wouldn't have to tolerate it. I for one won't stand for it. I run a small business employing 14 to 18 people. Currently I have 15 on full time payroll. Not a single one of them is a flaming homosexual.

I've had obvious fairy types apply before and I've never hired one. I never will will. If more people quit laying down for these activists and stood up for morality, we could stop this rush toward "accepting" the homosexuals.

Tommy Justice wrote:

If enough moral people stood up for what is good and right, we wouldn't have to tolerate it. I for one won't stand for it. I run a small business employing 14 to 18 people. Currently I have 15 on full time payroll. Not a single one of them is a flaming homosexual.

I've had obvious fairy types apply before and I've never hired one. I never will will. If more people quit laying down for these activists and stood up for morality, we could stop this rush toward "accepting" the homosexuals.

I like what you are doing. Kind of like "nobama" would say really stupid things pretending to be conservative in order to discredit conservatives. Keep up the good work.

Right...because morality is based on sexual preference, and not the inner fiber or actions of an individual.

Give me 100 "flaming" homosexuals who are kind, considerate, tolerant and giving over 1 straight bigot who preaches about the sanctity of marriage and morality, while at the same time, pops prescription pills, trolls for dick in airport bathrooms, or gets hand jobs from their meth dealer (see, Rush Limbaugh, Larry Craig and Ted Swaggart, in that order).

**Should read Ted HAGGARD, not Swaggart.

I was confusing Mr. Haggard with Evangelical preacher Jimmy Swaggart, who you will recall was busted not once, but twice, with hookers. My bad.

Tommy Justice wrote:

I for one still believe in right and wrong. I assure you that if I knew someone like this who admitted to being a homosexual, we would no longer be friends. You can call that being an ass or anything else you want. I don't care. People don't need to tolerate that behavior if they don't want to. We have enough of that "acceptance" shit shoved down our throats by the media.

Yeah but what if he/she was your BEST friend from college, you hung out and did all sorts of things (and I am not talking about sexual but a genuine friendship) and nothing seemed out of the ordinary. Would you NOT be friends just because you found out their sexual orientation was different from yours?

I think that would be harsh and you're right if it makes you feel uncomfortable to be around them then it's your decision to remain friends or not. Won't disagree with you there. I know and have worked with gay people, no reason to fear them.

To the OP, I had a good friend from college up until about few years ago. After college, we kept in touch even though I moved out of state and she travelled on her job. In fact she was in my wedding and we would talk at least once a month on the phone. I never gave thought why she never dated in college (I figured she was a late bloomer), I on the other hand had boyfriends. My friend was a beautiful pretty blonde girl, sometimes I did wonder why she didn't date but then again she grew up very religious and I thought maybe she was just "saving" herself.

I went on to get married and had kids, she would travel and tell me about her 'dates'. I was always excited for her and would ask questions about it. I would even give her advice about relationships. Again, never really thought anything of it. I did wonder why she would pick places (nothing against or not trying to stereo type) cities that a single straight woman would live, example San Francisco or Santa Fe when plenty of other areas to live that she could find "opportunities" for dates.

Anyway, to make a long story short, the first time I visited her--everything was normal, we did our usual silly stuff, laughed and caught up on each other's lives. My friend was a bubbly, fun person to be around. She had "on and off" relationships--again, never thought too much about it but it wasn't until I visited her the second time (and this time, I actually brought another girlfriend with me on the trip--both of us married and wanted a mini 'girls weekend') so I thought I go see my friend from college. Not sure what happened--we all got along well that weekend and had fun but I never heard from my friend from college since that weekend. I tried to call her several times and months after that (just kept getting her answer machine).

I know she must be okay because I still get Christmas cards from her twin sister. Bottom line, I will never figure it out but someone did bring it to my attention and told me maybe she was "gay" and was crushed to see me with another friend? I don't get it.

I guess to the OP, I'm not sure how I would have handled it if my friend came out back when we were in college. I definitely would have not deserted her...

Tommy Justice wrote:

Classic response. Anytime a person doesn't agree with going along with the homosexual agenda, accuse that person of also being homosexual. Boy you really showed me.

That's a lot like arguing with someone and one person finally says, "yeah well f*** you". Boy that really scores points. When you don't have facts to back up your side, just throw something stupid out to the other person. C'mon, get a new routine.

1. Check out the article on mens' reactions to gay porn as a function of their score on a test of homophobia. It's science, you can't argue with it. The more you hate gays, the more hard your penis becomes when you see them. It is science. You can't argue with science. You can't argue with science. You can't argue with science.

2. Can you explain to me precisely what is wrong with being gay? If you do not answer I will assume, and we can all assume, that you have conceded the point.

I understand how this would make someone feel uncomfortable. Just like it's ok for someone to be gay, that doesn't mean everyone has to be comfortable living with someone of the same sex who is gay. He is not saying anything negative in his post. He's being honest.

I think you should look into changing roommates. If you're in college you should be able to get one. This is how you feel and if we're talking about your living space, you have the right to feel comfortable in you're own space. Good luck.

themanontherun wrote:

2. Can you explain to me precisely what is wrong with being gay? If you do not answer I will assume, and we can all assume, that you have conceded the point.

Don't you assume a damn thing about me. It is an abomination. Laugh now if you will but someday you'll do anything but laugh.

It sickens me that there are so many homosexuals on here. I'm done with Lets Run.

My roommate freshman year was gay. Wasn't a big deal at all, we were friendly (though not friends) and just went about life normally. Had different schedules, so we weren't even in the dorm at the same time often. It was honestly no different than it would have been if he were heterosexual.

If your roommate told you and a group of friends for the first time they are homosexual, they are seeking acceptance. You can't run away from them and make them regret it, because they will have a hard time being honest in relationships in the future.

You definitely have to be supportive and show friendship. Maybe restrict your social interactions with your roommate to group settings, that way there is never a question as to whether the two of you are able to get along peacefully, and whether you are seeking a homosexual relationship with them. Your roommate will get the hint that you are uncomfortable with being alone with them, but appreciate that you are making the effort to still be a friend.

I had a female friend with a lesbian roommate, and she said the most awkward part was not dressing or going to/from shower when the roommate was in the room as well, but that the lesbian roommate thought the straight roommate was terrified of being hit on, and would leave the room without a word whenever the straight roommate would begin to remove clothes. It was out of respect, but it was awkward.

Just be sure to drop a line or two about a male date or potential male suitor every once in awhile. She'll see "straight," but also see "she's comfortable discussing friend-like things with me. she's treating me normal."

This all comes from not the greatest homosexual sympathizer in the world.

Tommy Justice wrote:

Don't you assume a damn thing about me. It is an abomination. Laugh now if you will but someday you'll do anything but laugh.

It sickens me that there are so many homosexuals on here. I'm done with Lets Run.

You didn't answer my question, therefore you have conceded the point. Debate me, or concede the point. You are wrong. If you do not give a concrete train of logical thought (which can be shown to be logically valid or invalid), with distinct premises (whose legitimacy can be debated objectively), it is assumed that you concede the point. You don't have a choice. Debate me, or embrace homosexuals. You are not being given a choice. You said you believe in right and wrong, which means you believe in absolutes. Absolutes are valuable because they can be proven logically. Submit to your own criteria. You must submit to logic, or admit that you're wrong. Those are you choices. You can either debate me, or admit you're wrong, you do not have other choices.

themanontherun wrote:

Debate me, or embrace homosexuals.

Uh, a bit extreme I would say.

Tommy Justice wrote:

I'm done with Lets Run.

Promise?!?!

Tommy Justice wrote:

Brian wrote:

Why is it wrong? Because Jesus said so? (He didn't). Grow up. A fixed percentage of people are gay and didn't choose to be gay.

Tolerance is, however, required. In this debate, it is the religious who are seeking special rights, not gay people.

If enough moral people stood up for what is good and right, we wouldn't have to tolerate it. I for one won't stand for it. I run a small business employing 14 to 18 people. Currently I have 15 on full time payroll. Not a single one of them is a flaming homosexual.

I've had obvious fairy types apply before and I've never hired one. I never will will. If more people quit laying down for these activists and stood up for morality, we could stop this rush toward "accepting" the homosexuals.

So can I refuse to hire Christians? I am a hardcore atheist and I think anyone who fires someone for their religious beliefs is breaking the law. I don't get what "morality" is involved in thinking being gay is wrong. Of all the obvious absurdities of God, this is the most glaring one - God creates us "sick" then commands us to be "well" and places absurdities like sexual orientation on an equal footing morally with murder, etc. But, then again, what would one expect from a decadent God who thinks the most moral thing of all is "belief" (again, something not chosen). When Christians ask "how can one be moral without God", it is a simple matter to see God's shitty track record on this - just open your OT and see the alleged morality of this cretinous deity. If he did exist, I'd tell him to suck my fat one. I never asked to be born and I don't own him shit. God is like a homeless person who washes your window at a stoplight then demands you pay him.

And, of course, if you had any clue about the Bible, you would get that we translate stuff into modern connotation that doesn't have that connotation originally and we also don't understand the concept between immorality and ritual purity (see the OT). Homosexuality in the OT is, of course, a ritual purity issue (like touching a dead body, having one's period, etc.). Hell, tattoing and eating shrimp are abominations.

And the sin of Sodom was inhospitability to strangers. The Sodom story is NOT ABOUT HOMOSEXUALITY! It has just been translated that way (and note, Lot's preference for having his daughter's raped is not remarked upon as immoral). Read other parts of the OT that comment on the Sodom story - the midrash is all about hospitality to strangers.

Other "abominations" in the OT include eating shrimp, having sex with a chick on her period, getting a tattoo, etc. Strangely, genocide and slavery aren't. Neither is marrying and screwing childern nor is treating women as chattel (read your 10 commandments - women are PROPERTY) Hell of a morality for you!

Why don't you move to Iran. Aren't we fighting a war against retrograde gay hating assholes?

Tommy Justice wrote:

I'm done with Lets Run, under this screen name.

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