pros and cons of attempting to get an entry-level job with a CS major

The big assumption in there is the same productivity level. If it was true no one would pay more for quality software developers.

I went to Heald wrote:

My company does mobile apps. Almost 100% Java & C derivatives. We work with Java Mobile, Symbian, iPhone, Android.

Question: Why pay for a Stanford CS grad when the chances are he'll quit in a year to start his own company ? A Heald CS grad is a better employee since he will have the same productivity and will at least stick around for 3-4 years.

I know Apps development is not science. I needed a job after working oilfields and construction for 20 years. Heald and Wyotech grads are as good as Stanford's for apps at our company.

Android tried the same cheap trick the Microsoft did. They "wrinkled" it then tried to lie about it as being unique. It's kinda a funny case around here. It's a Middlefield Road high school rivalry gone amuck since Android and Google are only a few miles apart in Mountain View (also the home of Track and Field News).

Open sources are free but you have to agree to the license. Android cheated and stole the design verbatim then publically trashed and taunted Java Corp. Oracle, which owns Java Corp., has to protect the 2 Billion existing Java Phone users that they made promise to for over a decade with the guaranteed "compile once run anywhere". At least Apple was smart and brought back from the dead, a lost language for iPhone/iPad apps.

1st casualty of the Oracle/Javasoft lawsuit. What a shock ! Goodgle CEO bites the dust and has been forced out. He was the former chief of Javasoft before. Now Android is going through a major shakeup in house. Oh well. Life goes on...

dont trust or listen to an anonymous message board

More like Android and Apple have been knocked on their asses by Nintendo/DMP's cheap consumer 3D unit. DMP's 3D GPU makes glasses-less 3D units a low cost stocking stuffer.

Rumors are Nokia and Sony will have JavaMobile 4G smart phones with 3D screens by summer.

Jobs bit the dust at Apple. Schmidt bit the dust at Google.

The bloodbath ain't over.

There's no science to computers

Silly Valley wrote:

Overall SW jobs are 1/10th of what it was 15 years ago. The parking lots are empty everwhere in Silicon Valley. Weeds growing. Auto dealers have folded along Stevens Ck, El Camino, etc.

That's because a lot of stupid dot com companies folded. These companies didn't necessarily have much to do with software as such. Good developers can still get jobs. Hell, even mediocre developers can still get jobs.

Good oil changers can still get jobs too. The big boom in CS died 10 years ago. The chances of getting rich are nearly zero nowadays. Better to study something else.