Look people, it's all about surface to air. It's that simple - surface to air. Whoever has the most capability will win.
Look people, it's all about surface to air. It's that simple - surface to air. Whoever has the most capability will win.
not at all. it's a level playing field now. there are so many countries have the bomb now. plus the u.s. won't fight wars with real soldiers. the u.s. is all but a paper tiger now. the $1 Trillion per year spent to prop up nazi-Israel and we're losing the wars on every front. it's another Vietnam debacle.
neutralized wrote:
not at all. it's a level playing field now. there are so many countries have the bomb now. plus the u.s. won't fight wars with real soldiers. the u.s. is all but a paper tiger now. the $1 Trillion per year spent to prop up nazi-Israel and we're losing the wars on every front. it's another Vietnam debacle.
Hey noob, I don't know if you skipped your 5th grade current events class last week, but it is not just about HAVING THE BOMB, it's about HOW MANY, and most importantly, BEING ABLE TO DELIVER IT!
North Korea cannot even hit the US yet with a nuke, even if they tried.
you R a retard.
China and Russia hits the US if the US hits Iran or N Kor.
If N Kor hits Japan the US collapses and Albertto Salazar and his Mexican panchos roll in and take over DC and NY since Japan Banks are the most powerful in the world today.
Just 1 bomb knocks out Israel. When the Tel Aviv goes up in a big mushroom cloud likely be an inside job by a Palestinian mole in the IDF.
neutralized wrote:
you R a retard.
China and Russia hits the US if the US hits Iran or N Kor.
If N Kor hits Japan the US collapses and Albertto Salazar and his Mexican panchos roll in and take over DC and NY since Japan Banks are the most powerful in the world today.
Just 1 bomb knocks out Israel. When the Tel Aviv goes up in a big mushroom cloud likely be an inside job by a Palestinian mole in the IDF.
You think China is going to destroy it's Cash Cow (the US) over fecking North Korea or Vietnam, the two armpits of the world?
China and the US economies are essentially symbiotic; war between the two will not come easy.
And Russia? Do you think they are going to initiate the end of humanity (full scale nuclear war between US and Russia) over a bunch of sand N's in Iran or crazy gooks?
Think again, son.
*IRAN, NOT VIETNAM
The New UncIeB wrote:
Hey noob, I don't know if you skipped your 5th grade current events class last week, but it is not just about HAVING THE BOMB, it's about HOW MANY, and most importantly, BEING ABLE TO DELIVER IT!
North Korea cannot even hit the US yet with a nuke, even if they tried.
And if they had already smuggled one into the country, would you know about it?
stoopid fool. modern china's economic juggernaut is the creation of japan's 1920s greater east asian co-prosperity sphere. in 1975 japan & china signed a treaty & japan targeting china as it's #1 frontier of development. 100,000 chinese students poured into japan to learn the japanese miracle. historically asia never wanted european nor us meddling and still pisses on the us and their little sail boats. china is an empire with never ending enemies along it's borders. two, three, sometimes four kingdoms in korea have always paid tribute to china. iran oil and africa raw materials are key to china's growth.
The New UncIeB wrote:
it is not just about HAVING THE BOMB, it's about HOW MANY, and most importantly, BEING ABLE TO DELIVER IT!
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What. The. Hell? I've ignored your posts, but this is seriously the stupidest thing you have ever written, so I have to respond. On the one hand I sincerely hope you're a troll. Otherwise, you would just be sadly, depressingly stupid. On the other hand, if you are a troll, you just got me!
Anyway, "who has the most nukes" doesn't mean shit, Uncle B. Thermonuclear weapons are so damn strong these days, something that fits in a briefcase will make Nagasaki and Hiroshima explosions look like Civil War muskets. Launching off even a few dozen ICBMs from the US, Russia, or China can essentially end the world as we know it. Sure, people will survive, but just that will render many parts of the world uninhabitable for generations or centuries. The US has or had THOUSANDS of weapons that strong. Russia, too. If we launch all we have, because we have the most, all life on Earth ends. Period.
I truly hope you mean that who has the most and the ability to deliver them is enough of a THREAT to prevent aggression from others. Nuclear weapons at this point are more of a defense, a deterrent, than an offensive weapon. You better hope that they never ever become offensive weapons again.
The post was in response to "so many countries have the bomb now". He was saying one bomb without the ability to deliver it is worthless. The amount of bombs also matters, even in doomsday scenarios: ya, it only takes a relatively small percentage of the US or Russia's bombs to end the world, but with an effective missile shield, you need multiple simultaneous ICBM's launched at once to get through. The reason the number of bombs matters is literally more bombs make the chance that several get through higher. (Even before ICBM's, the reason you needed so many nukes was because you needed to be able to assure your enemies that some of your bombers would get through if they attacked you).
You were correct that everything is based on the assured destruction factor; nuke us and, because of our ability to get many nukes over at once to wherever you are, we can assure you your immediate demise. To be considered such a threat, you need to be able to actually be able to come through if antagonized.
I can't believe I'm saying this, but, aside from grammatical errors, everything Uncle B has said in this thread up to this point is 100% correct.
There's so many possible ways that missile defenses can't detect. The easiest is to embed a spy that will set it off. Another is to place a short range missile aboard a ship with the warhead in a lead box, then fire the missile when in range.
The best deterrent is to 1) halt U.S. imperialism, zionism, and genocide across the globe, 2) end the 70 year long U.S. occupation of Palestine, 3) end the wars in Pakistan, Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, ..., 4) recognize full sovereignty of the local inhabitants of the Middle East countries, 5) stand down U.S. military bases, CIA opertations, State Department operations, nuclear weapons, and puppet regimes in Israel, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan.
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4)recognize full sovereignty of the local inhabitants of the Middle East countries, 5) stand down U.S. military bases, CIA opertations, State Department operations, nuclear weapons, and puppet regimes in Israel, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan.
Excellent idea! Then we can have 9/11 type attacks on a weekly basis here in America!
Actually, that would end all reasons for the crazies to attack us. Remember that their beef is that the US racists took over the failed British Empire's Arab lands in 1945. Full recognition is solution.
Are you kidding? That's not going to stop them at all. They would attack more seeking "retribution." They would call it justice.
Why would they attack the US if we pulled out. That's what they want afterall. They've been complaining about the same damn thing over and over again for the past 65 effing years. If we stopped killing their children in their countries the ranks of volunteer mujahadin would dwindle to only a handful of nutjob wannabes. The Middle East desperately wants to modernize and enjoy life. Look at how Asia has turned it's attention away from war after they defeated the United States Army on the battlefields and the Pardon me Ford was forced to pull out.
You’re clearly unaware that the greatest enemy the citizens of the USA face - is your own Federal Reserve.
one of my favorite military quotes:
"A million men, attacking for a hundred years, could not take Tarawa"-Japanese Garrison commander prior to Marine landings. Marines took the Island in less than 4 days. "
while this nation does have plenty of fat ass retard worthless pieces of crap, please don't forget that we also maintain the BEST military force in the world, that is why people in the USA can do whatever they want all day long and no other countries can screw with us.
You’ve no idea the reality that I was attempting to point out.
As far as Tarawa is concerned - you are not the nation you were in 41-45.
And I would point out that the ‘greatest military force in the world’ attempted to beat a mere peasant nation for 20 years from 55 - 75 and lost pitifully.
But it’s nothing to do with military force - it’s what’ll happen to the USA when you are no longer hold the world’s reserve currency.
Hiroshima! wrote:
You americans are impotent! We kill you all!
Impotent, maybe, but we have literally tons of Viagra and Cialis. We can go for up to 4 hours each day. Watch out, mofos!
"A classified State Department cable released yesterday confirmed that it has for years been official Israeli policy to allow so little aid into the Gaza Strip as to keep it forever on the brink of collapse. A cable leaked today has revealed corruption made the situation even worse.
The new cable, dated from 2006, reports that a number of American companies were complaining to the State Department that Israeli officials were trying to extort massive bribes from them in return for allowing their products to pass through the Karni crossing into the Gaza Strip.
The companies were told they could move to the front of the line for major payouts, and the Israeli general in charge of the liaison unit confirmed to the US that corruption at the crossing was causing a significant backlog of goods stuck at the border, waiting to be bribed in"