From 21>end (Kipruto in NY 2025 v. Mantz in Chicago 2025)
21: 5:08 vs 4:49 22: 4:40 vs 5:05 23: 4:41 vs 4:52 24: 4:39 (up the hill); vs 4:47 25: 4:30; vs 5:05 26: 4:22 vs 5:06 185 yards: :58 vs (unknown)
Now Mantz's time was 3:16 faster overall than Kipruto - but my point with the above is that in a sit and kick the last 10K race that was NY yesterday, I wouldn't just declare Mantz would win....I think that's way too speculative.
that's pretty impressive to lay down a 4:22 final mile in the nyc marathon. connor could probably run 5:00 flat for the first 25 and still not do that.
Read the title. To me, it looks like he traded getting the American record in a stronger field for winning his first major. I know he could've won this without a doubt in my mind.
Mantz would have been where he always is. 2+ minutes away from contending.
I don't think we have to take anything away from Mantz, while recognizing that Kipruto & Mutiso are studs. I think Mantz could've been in that sprint finish, but I also could see him getting dropped & battling it out for 3rd. Kipruto's resume is much different from Mutiso, Mantz, & the guys who beat Mantz @ Boston last spring. 4x major titles, 1x 2nd, 3x 3rd, 1x Olympic bronze, 2:02-low PB. Mutiso has a London win. Korir has Boston + Chicago wins. Simbu won the World Champs this year.
Head to head, my money would be on Kipruto. Mantz is definitely closing the gap + it's nice to see multiple Americans running 2:09/2:10 at an honest major, with a 2:08 winning time.
lots of americans in the top 10 but none of them with a real chance to win unless something goes wrong. that's pretty much how it seems like it is. that's the sad state of affairs with american distance running. but we're used to it!
Mantz has done great things in the last 18 months but i could name 13 or 14 better marathoners in the world right now. Better results, quicker times.
Read the title. To me, it looks like he traded getting the American record in a stronger field for winning his first major. I know he could've won this without a doubt in my mind.
This is why someone with the knowledge and time has to apply Tully Runners Speed Ratings to major marathons. They're accurate enough to be major factor in rating runners.
They run too few marathons every year to have enough meaningful head to head races.