Goose ran the final 100 in the same time as Hocker … but Nuguse didn’t have to slow down and reaccelerate as Hocker did. It was Hocker doing the stutter stepping while Nuguse had a fairly clean run down the straight. You wokesters really fall all over each other trying to get into Nuguse’s jock. 😂
That’s true. It really bothers these guys that Cole generally beats Nuguse in championship races. Cole did have slow for a few strides while Yared did a slingshot off the curve but Cole still won. What bothers them even more is Cole now has two global gold medals.
Doesn't bother me one bit. It's mostly a style preference in how they approach racing. As a Nuguse fan what you get is a consistent world class performer. He typically goes for glory early. Cole just sits and then gets smoked often. if it's a championship then you can suspect Cole's going to try to steal it. If it's any race Yared will be upfront challenging.
Track: There is no way an athlete at 1500m speed would feel the difference between a 120m and 121m turn. In the 200m? Maybe. That is why they don't put a runner in lane 1. In other words, being in lane 2 is an advantage in this respect.
Kerr, Inge, Hocker: Inge moved in to shut down Hocker's inside move. Hocker checked and got right behind Inge. Whichever way Inge went, Hocker was in a position to move. Given his speed on that second move, it is extremely likely that he could have moved between Inge and Kerr and still won. Kerr tied up in the last 15m, Inge had no response to any of the 3 who passed him. Only Neguse nearly matched Hocker's speed, but started from 1-2m back. The 5000m WC this year proves his speed is unmatched. In Paris he started a kick, checked, re-launched and still won. VERY few runners can do that when their momentum is interrupted.
Where, when and how is he moving between Jakob and Kerr? In that final 60m Jakob is running on the inside of lane 2 and Josh on the outside. If that scenario is replicated in lane 1 how exactly is Hocker getting to the front? Splitting them? A track lane is 4 feet wide and you had two bodies in it with swinging arms attached to them - zero chance.
This is a different issue to his strength and speed in this race which was obviously the best, but multiple things can be true at once - he could easily have not won this race despite being the physically best guy in it. If Jakob does not make that half lane move wide in response to Kerrs presence, Hocker has no choice but to do the dreaded "parallel parking" exit move - the very move he avoided in Tokyo by stupidly crowbarring himself through a gap that wasn't there. If that happens there is no way he wins that race. The extra distance plus momentary burst of energy with only 50m to go - highly doubt that.
Get this feeling that there always this push to discredit him - that's the stupid premise of the "centrifugal force" argument and then there is always this "got lucky, therefore..." narrative. Well he did get lucky but so what! So many huge sporting moments are decided by fortune going one way or another, you still have to be great enough to capitalize on that fortune and he was. But we can also be honest and say that there was a real possibility here that it might not have gone his way and outcome something different.
Kerr was solidly in lane 2. If Inge had stayed inside, there was probably enough room for Hocker in between, especially as Inge was slowing down and Kerr was moving away. WORST CASE SCENARIO, Hocker had to move outside of Kerr but he is still a step ahead of Neguse with superior speed and Inge slowed so Hocker gets Silver (IF he couldn't summon a bit more as Kerr tied up in the last 15m). Even in that scenario his COULD have ended up winning, but likely 2nd.
Because the Stade de France also hosted rugby competitions during the Games, the athletics track was apparently built with a slightly altered radius–one metre longer on the bends and three metres shorter on the straights in comparison to a standard athletics track.
Amandine Aftalion, a mathematician at Université Paris-Saclay who studies the physics and statistics of human kinetics, says this subtle design change may have given the eventual Olympic champion, Cole Hocker of the U.S, an advantage.
According to Aftalion, the longer bend increases the centrifugal force, which is the outward force a person, object or thing experiences while turning. Centrifugal force makes it tougher to maintain speed in the curve. In the final 200 metres of the Olympic final, Kerr used Lane 2 to move ahead of Norway’s Jakob Ingebrigtsen, while Hocker hugged the inside of Lane 1 and waited for a hole to open up.
“The longer bend meant more time under force,” Aftalion said. “Kerr’s move into Lane 2 [the longer route] may have cost him momentum, while Hocker conserved speed and energy by staying tight on the inside.”
She adds that on a standard track, with shorter turns, Kerr might have been able hold off Hocker. But that extra metre could have been the margin that put the gold into Hocker’s tactical hands. The two athletes were separated by just over a tenth of a second, with Hocker winning gold in an Olympic record of 3:27.65, and Kerr taking silver in 3:27.77.
Problem is there is no “standard track.” Only legal and non-legal. Paris’s track was legal. Kerr needs to git gud, as the gamer kids say, on any legal track.
Problem is there is no “standard track.” Only legal and non-legal. Paris’s track was legal. Kerr needs to git gud, as the gamer kids say, on any legal track.
They all ran on the same track and position themselves accordingly. Hocker did the best and won. The end.
I'm not reading all that. My only question is, is the track within the regulations? I imagine the WA rules specify a range for many parameters for official tracks. Like, there's no singular curve radius specified, it's more like the radius needs to be between A and B. Assuming it's within regulation, then no asterisk needed.
This is what the rules state: "14. (Rule 160) Track Measurements 14.1 The length of a standard running track shall be 400m. It shall consist of two parallel straights and two bends whose radii shall be equal."
Because the Stade de France also hosted rugby competitions during the Games, the athletics track was apparently built with a slightly altered radius–one metre longer on the bends and three metres shorter on the straights in comparison to a standard athletics track.
Amandine Aftalion, a mathematician at Université Paris-Saclay who studies the physics and statistics of human kinetics, says this subtle design change may have given the eventual Olympic champion, Cole Hocker of the U.S, an advantage.
According to Aftalion, the longer bend increases the centrifugal force, which is the outward force a person, object or thing experiences while turning. Centrifugal force makes it tougher to maintain speed in the curve. In the final 200 metres of the Olympic final, Kerr used Lane 2 to move ahead of Norway’s Jakob Ingebrigtsen, while Hocker hugged the inside of Lane 1 and waited for a hole to open up.
“The longer bend meant more time under force,” Aftalion said. “Kerr’s move into Lane 2 [the longer route] may have cost him momentum, while Hocker conserved speed and energy by staying tight on the inside.”
She adds that on a standard track, with shorter turns, Kerr might have been able hold off Hocker. But that extra metre could have been the margin that put the gold into Hocker’s tactical hands. The two athletes were separated by just over a tenth of a second, with Hocker winning gold in an Olympic record of 3:27.65, and Kerr taking silver in 3:27.77.
Everyone had to run on the same damn track. Jeezus
This is insane. I don’t know why anyone would spend a minute considering this. Thankfully it wasn’t Kerr that came up with this hypothesis. They all ran the same track.
I'm not reading all that. My only question is, is the track within the regulations? I imagine the WA rules specify a range for many parameters for official tracks. Like, there's no singular curve radius specified, it's more like the radius needs to be between A and B. Assuming it's within regulation, then no asterisk needed.
This is what the rules state: "14. (Rule 160) Track Measurements 14.1 The length of a standard running track shall be 400m. It shall consist of two parallel straights and two bends whose radii shall be equal."
Right. DC Rainmaker went down the track measure rabbit hole on his blog a bit back. Good read if you want to learn about things only track designers need to know.
Last week I posted about the update to Garmin’s wearables that now includes a database of running tracks for their running track mode, in addition to the pre-existing ‘learned’ track mode where it learns the running track you...
That’s true. It really bothers these guys that Cole generally beats Nuguse in championship races. Cole did have slow for a few strides while Yared did a slingshot off the curve but Cole still won. What bothers them even more is Cole now has two global gold medals.
Doesn't bother me one bit. It's mostly a style preference in how they approach racing. As a Nuguse fan what you get is a consistent world class performer. He typically goes for glory early. Cole just sits and then gets smoked often. if it's a championship then you can suspect Cole's going to try to steal it. If it's any race Yared will be upfront challenging.
Cole wins the big races. Look at his finals record against Yared dating back to the NCAAs. How many international championship golds does your boy Yared have? People like athletes who rise to occasion in a major final. If Cole never wins again he has two global titles to his credit. Hocker isn’t stealing anything. He wins. In Paris Yared didn’t challenge anything until Hocker made his move. In Tokyo… never mind, Yared wasn’t there! Meanwhile, Cole flubbed his semi then came back like a true champion in the 5k.
