So many of you keep repeating this falsehood. The half marathon was not the day after the 1500m. Jakob should have been in great shape, and I am sure he was, but he obviously wasn’t in great shape for a half marathon, as he bit off more than he could chew.
No. It was like 36 hrs later
That’s still approximately a day later, he embarrassed himself and cheated us all. Didn’t do as he promised to break the WR.
I don’t know. 63.5 is like 26:27 10000m pace, which is likely beyond Jakob’s range at this time. He is probably closer to 26:50. But we are all speculating.
No YOU are speculating. Some of us know some relevant facts (so we can make some qualified predictions):
He regularly not only beats 26:50 guys he completely destroy them.
See fore example the Euro XC in 2024.
A healthy Jakob in top shape can at least run 26:30.
Almgren who is a 26:50 guy and training partner to Jakob thinks that Jakob is significantly faster than him in the 10000m (as he is on all distances down to the sprints).
Now with his injuries he isn’t going to be a 26:30 guy. If he isn’t conquering the 5k WR he will not be a good 10k runner. He will get another injury because you pressured him to push the 10k limit.
A very good threshold workout by Jakob in St Moritz . I trained there back in 1999 and I can testify it's much tougher to run interval reps there ( 1880 m altitude) compared to sealevel.When I was there I watched that time great runner Moses Tanui with a Kenyan group running the same 20 x 400m but more like a maxVO2 workout and around 61-62 sec average with 60-90 sec easy walk rest. 🇸🇪🤠🇰🇪
It really doesn't matter how good he looks, he has no recent races under his belt, and that is a huge factor in getting the human body to perform in a race like scenario.
Yall really need to stop gazing and idolizing at this dude.
Coach dahl
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I feel guilty for previously placing him on my totem pole when he won Tokyo 2021. After that it was endless promises and waits for another win in the 1500m and still it hasn’t come and it’s life unlikely than ever as this events recycles itself very quickly with the likes of new blood coming up. Now I find him just venturing more into broadway theatre with each passing YouTube and instagram post. He is just running for the legacy now.
It really doesn't matter how good he looks, he has no recent races under his belt, and that is a huge factor in getting the human body to perform in a race like scenario.
Yall really need to stop gazing and idolizing at this dude.
Coach dahl
the fastest mile run this year is by jakob…in his first race of the year…indoors. it was a WR.
it being his first race, he had no races under his belt then. why couldnt he run the fastest time i. the world again now or win a chanpionship? you haters are just moronic.
Because he now has an injured and untested leg under his hips. He also has nerves to deal with. He is not known to handle pressure very well like Kerr. Kerr is indomitable in the mind.
I think he was exaggerating. In real practice you add 5-10 seconds to that because athletes do not lazy or spend a bit more time for water or walking astray. It happens. I say more like 50s.
I feel guilty for previously placing him on my totem pole when he won Tokyo 2021. After that it was endless promises and waits for another win in the 1500m and still it hasn’t come and it’s life unlikely than ever as this events recycles itself very quickly with the likes of new blood coming up. Now I find him just venturing more into broadway theatre with each passing YouTube and instagram post. He is just running for the legacy now.
Less than 6 months since he broke 2 1500/mile indoor WR’s with a huge margin in the middle of a base training period. And we all know he has unfinished business in the 5000m time wise (no indication of him loosing endurance in his injury period)…
We know that Jakob has updated his training to better suit the 5000m+ strength since last fall (he has said so). Maybe as a consequence of his experience in the HM… (or maybe also because he still believes a lot in strength work even for the 1500m).
I don’t know. 63.5 is like 26:27 10000m pace, which is likely beyond Jakob’s range at this time. He is probably closer to 26:50. But we are all speculating.
No YOU are speculating. Some of us know some relevant facts (so we can make some qualified predictions):
He regularly not only beats 26:50 guys he completely destroy them.
See fore example the Euro XC in 2024.
A healthy Jakob in top shape can at least run 26:30.
Almgren who is a 26:50 guy and training partner to Jakob thinks that Jakob is significantly faster than him in the 10000m (as he is on all distances down to the sprints).
YOU are speculating. As someone who knows much more about this than you do, I can tell you that you are not an “objective” observer and that you consistently overrate Jakob. You seem to think that Jakob has 26:30 ability, despite the fact that he has never shown this, not once. 26:30 runners do not fall apart at 27:27 pace. Jakob was exposed in that half marathon. He didn’t belong with the big boys, and he is battling injury problems. You cherry pick data that suits your narrative, as I just did when I mentioned his half marathon, but you don’t even seem to know you are doing it.
I think he was exaggerating. In real practice you add 5-10 seconds to that because athletes do not lazy or spend a bit more time for water or walking astray. It happens. I say more like 50s.
Pretty sure JI knows what his workouts are and does them. If the rest period is supposed to be 40 secs, then he does 40 sec rest periods
No YOU are speculating. Some of us know some relevant facts (so we can make some qualified predictions):
He regularly not only beats 26:50 guys he completely destroy them.
See fore example the Euro XC in 2024.
A healthy Jakob in top shape can at least run 26:30.
Almgren who is a 26:50 guy and training partner to Jakob thinks that Jakob is significantly faster than him in the 10000m (as he is on all distances down to the sprints).
YOU are speculating. As someone who knows much more about this than you do, I can tell you that you are not an “objective” observer and that you consistently overrate Jakob. You seem to think that Jakob has 26:30 ability, despite the fact that he has never shown this, not once. 26:30 runners do not fall apart at 27:27 pace. Jakob was exposed in that half marathon. He didn’t belong with the big boys, and he is battling injury problems. You cherry pick data that suits your narrative, as I just did when I mentioned his half marathon, but you don’t even seem to know you are doing it.
It makes zero sense that a guy who has won 3 consecutive 5000 meter world titles would be lacking in 10k ability. You don't know anything. That half marathon is the most meaningless data point you could provide, and I think that you already know that.
I am very confident that most 26:30 runners actually would slow down after running 27:27 in a half marathon they weren't taking seriously after an extremely long season.
YOU are speculating. As someone who knows much more about this than you do, I can tell you that you are not an “objective” observer and that you consistently overrate Jakob. You seem to think that Jakob has 26:30 ability, despite the fact that he has never shown this, not once. 26:30 runners do not fall apart at 27:27 pace. Jakob was exposed in that half marathon. He didn’t belong with the big boys, and he is battling injury problems. You cherry pick data that suits your narrative, as I just did when I mentioned his half marathon, but you don’t even seem to know you are doing it.
I am very confident that most 26:30 runners actually would slow down after running 27:27 in a half marathon they weren't taking seriously after an extremely long season.
The above is one of the most ridiculous statements in this thread. Of course Jakob is likely in 26:50 shape, and maybe at his best he has been in 26:40 shape. Hicham ran 3:26, 7:23 and 12:50. I suppose you think he was in 26:45 shape? I rather doubt it.
No YOU are speculating. Some of us know some relevant facts (so we can make some qualified predictions):
He regularly not only beats 26:50 guys he completely destroy them.
See fore example the Euro XC in 2024.
A healthy Jakob in top shape can at least run 26:30.
Almgren who is a 26:50 guy and training partner to Jakob thinks that Jakob is significantly faster than him in the 10000m (as he is on all distances down to the sprints).
Now with his injuries he isn’t going to be a 26:30 guy. If he isn’t conquering the 5k WR he will not be a good 10k runner. He will get another injury because you pressured him to push the 10k limit.
Oh now you are hoping for injuries?! How serious.
It is obvious that he won´t run fast and brake more WRs if if he doesn´t get free from injuries.
But IF he gets healthy he will break the 5000m WR (he could possibly have broken it both in 2023 and 2024 if he has run the 5000m instead the 2000m in 2023 or 3000m in 2024).
No YOU are speculating. Some of us know some relevant facts (so we can make some qualified predictions):
He regularly not only beats 26:50 guys he completely destroy them.
See fore example the Euro XC in 2024.
A healthy Jakob in top shape can at least run 26:30.
Almgren who is a 26:50 guy and training partner to Jakob thinks that Jakob is significantly faster than him hablein the 10000m (as he is on all distances down to the sprints).
YOU are speculating. As someone who knows much more about this than you do, I can tell you that you are not an “objective” observer and that you consistently overrate Jakob. You seem to think that Jakob has 26:30 ability, despite the fact that he has never shown this, not once. 26:30 runners do not fall apart at 27:27 pace. Jakob was exposed in that half marathon. He didn’t belong with the big boys, and he is battling injury problems. You cherry pick data that suits your narrative, as I just did when I mentioned his half marathon, but you don’t even seem to know you are doing it.
Your post is laughable!
But tell me when I have overrated Jakob?
I can disclose that I predicted his 2miles WB, 2000m WR and 3000m WR attacks quite well but can you find any predictions where I overrated him? (there IS one example out of many other predictions regarding Jakob).
Now with his injuries he isn’t going to be a 26:30 guy. If he isn’t conquering the 5k WR he will not be a good 10k runner. He will get another injury because you pressured him to push the 10k limit.
Oh now you are hoping for injuries?! How serious.
It is obvious that he won´t run fast and brake more WRs if if he doesn´t get free from injuries.
But IF he gets healthy he will break the 5000m WR (he could possibly have broken it both in 2023 and 2024 if he has run the 5000m instead the 2000m in 2023 or 3000m in 2024).
And then later he will take the 10000m as well.
I would wager you $100,000 that Jakob will never have the world 10000m record on the track. His only chance would be as a woman.
YOU are speculating. As someone who knows much more about this than you do, I can tell you that you are not an “objective” observer and that you consistently overrate Jakob. You seem to think that Jakob has 26:30 ability, despite the fact that he has never shown this, not once. 26:30 runners do not fall apart at 27:27 pace. Jakob was exposed in that half marathon. He didn’t belong with the big boys, and he is battling injury problems. You cherry pick data that suits your narrative, as I just did when I mentioned his half marathon, but you don’t even seem to know you are doing it.
Your post is laughable!
But tell me when I have overrated Jakob?
I can disclose that I predicted his 2miles WB, 2000m WR and 3000m WR attacks quite well but can you find any predictions where I overrated him? (there IS one example out of many other predictions regarding Jakob).
And tell me what I have cherry picked?
Post #62 is an exchange between you and I. I said Jakob has no chance at the half marathon world record last fall and you disagreed with me.