Mark my words. You people are about to see 4 men go under 1:40 in the same race.

Bump this thread when it doesn't happen

No one’s going to go out that fast and only come back .7 seconds slower the second lap. The race is too hard on your body to be that efficient. Rudisha as beautifully executed as his 1:40.9 was, it was with the classic 2 sec diff.

for Someone to break 1:40 they

1. have to be a 400/800 guy to have the speed reserve so that…

2. They go out in sub 49 so they can come back in 51.0

its about getting out that pace feeling smooth and gradually decelerating to the point that it “feels” like you didn’t slow down at all but maintained. To run 1:41/1:42 and only have a 1 second diff means to you it felt like you hit another gear and finished faster than you had been running and that is not the recipe for the WR and damn sure not for sub 1:40

Tooth Ugg Eels!!!

rudisha coe and kipkiter on their A game with perfect pacing .. and them following correctly all go 139

Luk's progression, I have to believe follows that of a 18 year old moving forward.

regarding 4 guys in the same race going 139, that's not going to happen right now, but you may have several in 141

you need another race like rudisha in his 140 high, and for the field to improve by 2 seconds, which actually kind of happened of late...

so it's possible but very very long odds at the moment.

you need a couple more phenoms to come up now for a shot

why should we mark your words? who are you and why do you think you are an authority? are you one of many here who are "positive" everyone is doping? Including 16 year olds...because you know?

What does this have to do with anything?

The only reason I’m entertaining this is because a 16 yo just ran 1:42 and can probably dip into the 1:41s in a DL race. If a 16 yo can run 1:41, surely a couple older guys in their prime could run faster, right?

Brazier is SO talented, and finally healthy, at altitude, and with a great coach. Wanyonyi is SO talented, already a 1:41 low guy, and in his prime. Hoey is SO talented and HAS to run incredibly in the DL final if he wants to make it to Worlds. Everyone will be peaking, there will be a pacer, and who knows how many guys are ready to run 1:41 after the Olympics last year? It might take a WR to win, and if it does (and there are a couple guys really close together), maybe 4 guys sub-1:40 won’t be as surprising.

Honestly in a world where the DL final is always held right before WCs, and they unlock a spot, we might see way more incredibly fast times. Normally the issue is that people are past their peak for the DL final, so if they’re in absolute peak shape and some guys are vying for spots, we could get some crazy results. Like will Nuguse or Hoey try to run a WR in the DL final to ensure no one can stick with them? Would a WR even ensure no one could out kick them? Idk but I think it’s gonna be a way better format now that it’s always right before WCs, and WCs are always at the end of the season.

If you are right I will declare that you are an amazing detective-slash-genius.

Let's see them do it in vibram five fingers

4 men having group s, we are about to see 😍

Yes! Let's gift the already incredibly gifted child an additional second!

Let's gift the sexy vets an additional 1, 2, 3 seconds!

It's just that f**king EASY!

-David Christ

How exactly do we mark words? I am not from the early 1900s so I haven't had to mark words yet.

we just had a 16-year-old run 1:42.2

anything is possible!

Easy when zero money is involved. Loser

A giant leap forward is always like this. The mile has been the event most noticeable, maybe the 100m. 4:00 or 10.0.

Several people searching the right alchemy in training, drugs, technology etc.. start to approach the barrier together. Then there's a breakthrough and the flood gates open and the process starts over requiring time and advancements but most importantly, vision.

Im not sure 1:41 is close enough to the barrier with the group we have. The nature of 800 with too many is such that it could and has ended up like NASCAR hitting the wall. Fastest race out of lanes leaves very little room for error. Shortest distance, perfectly paced, no impedance, fast track, shoes, weather, supplements, motivation etc...so many things can go wrong. Too many front runners taking it out too hard, too many bangers getting impatient. CL strategically has the best chance. Stay on pace, off the back, close it up 600'-700 ease wide and let it rip.

You saw it for yourselves. This is how it's going to go down with this generation. Unless everyone tries it then it's a slow cluster. So, we need the Hoeys of the world to sacrifice like an idiot (he's been good at it all year for too many races) and let the guys with Efficiency and patience capitalize. No more than 8 in the field please. The DL races with 12 are a cluster.

CL has the finishing gear and is still finding/growing in his best opening pace. Give him time. He's been showing you since 9th grade state meet.

None of that still means we have critical mass for 1:39 yet. Just like 4:00 for women. Not enough knocking on the door and motivated to be first. It'll happen and maybe I'll be around to see it. Or not.

And 8 bouncy spikes

"Do you understand the words coming out of my mouth?!"

I think you've got an over-inflated opinion of the quality of the field in my local half marathon.

Korir ran 50/52 and had 44.3 speed. Problem is he couldn't break 3:38 1500

Rudisha was probably capable of 45.3 and probably 3:37 1500 at best, but never raced it professionally. Maybe if he went out in 50.00, he could have come back in 50.7 in his Olympic race, but he ran a near perfect race for himself.

If CL can run 44.9 40mm then he has a shot at 1:39.9, if he has 3:34 1500m strength. Symmonds could do that, but only had 47 speed.

49.3 first lap + 50.65. His second lap about a second faster than Rudisha.