AMERICAN students should be the ones attending AMERICAN universities because they're funded by AMERICAN taxes.
Sigh. What you're missing is that foreign students pay the full ride. Most US students get aid of some type. Without foreign students, universities lose a lot of tuition.
If the US's problems were solved this easily, they would be solved.
It's obviously the case that while foreign students take spots Americans would get, where there are enough Americans to fill them, the foreign students bring a huge influx of money to the U.S. and most of them stay and add to our economy immensely because they have talent and that immigrant work ethic. In athletics, the loss of international athletes would open up more spots for Americans, especially in sports where they dominate, like golf, tennis, and soccer, especially, partially making up for the loss of roster spots from the House settlement, but also lowering the bar.
AMERICAN students should be the ones attending AMERICAN universities because they're funded by AMERICAN taxes.
Sigh. What you're missing is that foreign students pay the full ride. Most US students get aid of some type. Without foreign students, universities lose a lot of tuition.
If the US's problems were solved this easily, they would be solved.
Yeah, this Manbearpig guy is simply... dumb.
He doesn't seem to know that international students at a given university massively subsidize the lower tuition the Americans pay.
AMERICAN students should be the ones attending AMERICAN universities because they're funded by AMERICAN taxes.
American universities get tax payer funded money. That does not mean that it is the bulk of their revenue. Here is the part that you and most of the world that works outside of higher ed does not know. Most schools, especially private schools have what is call low residency programs. These programs are masters level degree that are geared toward working professionals predominately from India or China. These programs make up a huge chunk of many schools revenue. These programs make far more money for the school than traditional undergraduate programs. They are pure profit machines. No scholarships, students that are working good jobs, and 1-2 year programs that constantly bring in new students. A long term visa pause will be catastrophic to the higher education industry. There are roughly 6000+ schools in the US. Half of those could not stay open for more than a year without programs like these. No one makes money on brick and morter students anymore. So lets gut the industry and make a college degree available to only rich people in an economy where the degree is a requirement for any professional career path. Athletics is the least of our worries with a policy like this. Even large state schools will take massive hits financially. That leads to cutting programs in academics and athletics. Great plan.
Yea, this is exactly the Project 2025 plan. Bleed universities dry, bend them the Trump cult's will, or just have them close down altogether. Then get an army of even more compliant wage slaves for their new low-skill economy. The cult doesn't care who gets harmed or how many jobs are lost. Because somehow universities are responsible for indoctrinating all the woke liberals, rather than leaving one's hometown and meeting people different than the yokels you grew up with.
Most but not all. My son ran 1:54/4:17 junior year but received little interest so he just attended our state school due to cost. We pay about $23K per year. Out of state schools and private schools were about double the price.
The US has thrived because we syphon away the best and brightest talents from the rest of the world. Our athletes are getting better because of the high level of competition.
This ruling isn't helping anyone. College's aren't going to give US born talents more support, they're just not going to bother funding them.
AMERICAN students should be the ones attending AMERICAN universities because they're funded by AMERICAN taxes.
The business model of American universities requires foreign students and your price of college is cheaper this way. You clearly will drink whatever xenophobic kool aid Fox News will tell you.
anyway, this stuff is stalled in courts. All you have to do is get these people here during the stay, they cant do as much while the athletes have already made it across the border , especially at schools in sanctuary states or cities.
So you put minimal effort into screening foreign school candidates like they always have: also, do you think a president who pardons January 6th rioters and is unapologetic about the death threats his words cause when he declares all judges and jurors who stand in his way illegitimate?
You think Kenyan runners stay in the US and contribute to our economy?
Well, all-American Wesley Korir was a biology student at Louisville and got elected for Kenyan parliament. What makes you think they’re doing soft majors? Kenya was an English colony so thats their primary language
The runners in the US are majoring in exercise science and most dont graduate. They return to Kenya never to be heard from again. The fast ones stay to run, not to contribute. They send most of their money back home.
So did every immigrant from every country ever. I live in a community of Bolivian immigrants who build links of chain migration off remittances. Every Bolivian immigrant who comes here generally has two advanced degrees because education is pretty free in Bolivia. My family is all immigrants from Iran, Israel, Chile and Germany. Theyre higjly accomplished and my mom was one of the highest ranking women in the DOD. She sent money back home all the time to her relatives and then they made enough to eventually move here and her younger brother my uncle is worth $21 million.
On the athletics side it wouldn’t be that bad. We have plenty of top quality runners in this country. It would just expand opportunities for more US athletes to test their limits. There is plenty of talent in this country that goes by the wayside because of colleges bringing in older professional athletes from other countries.
I agree that foreigners are depriving American runners from running at the higher levels and elite... but most real American talent is running somewhere. Even if you are a mediocre high schooler... there are plenty of D2, NAIA and JUCO programs that will take you. It isn't like American talent is completely locked out of collegiate running due to foreigners...
Why should an American kid who's parents have paid taxes here for 18+ years have to go to some podunk NAIA or JUCO school just so his state university can field a team of 28 year old Kenyans? It should be the other way around.
I don't dislike all foreign students, I've had some great friends and proffessors from other countries. However this Kenyan thing that has been getting more popular in in the NCAA is a complete farce, I'm glad Trump is killing it, even if unintentionally
AMERICAN students should be the ones attending AMERICAN universities because they're funded by AMERICAN taxes.
Sigh. What you're missing is that foreign students pay the full ride. Most US students get aid of some type. Without foreign students, universities lose a lot of tuition.
If the US's problems were solved this easily, they would be solved.
True, but in the case of athletics it's the extact opposite. Pretty much the ONLY people getting full rides (real full rides, ie tuition, room, board, stipend, ect.) now are foreigners. There are mid majors in the south bringing in 14:40 level Kenyans, while leaving the kids in their state high and dry. Hell I know sub 4 milers at D1 schools barely on half scholarship. This is inexcusable. Maybe banning all foreigners is a little too extreme, but a large majority of scholarships at public schools should be reserved for the taxpayers that fund them.
I bet you want an all-Caucasian America with no visitors ever as well, and that no American should ever be allowed out of the country, and that no American should ever be able to buy anything not made in America???
I guess because I know how to read. I looked at some rosters. You can spend 15 minutes going through the rosters of the schools with Kenyans. And your anecdotal guy didn't stay and contribute to the US economy.