Class 234 wrote:
So will there be an investigation as to where they obtained the drugs? Who their agent is?
Hahaha. Like they "did" with the Sang and Schumacher groups?
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history boss wrote:
Class 234 wrote:
So will there be an investigation as to where they obtained the drugs? Who their agent is?
Hahaha. Like they "did" with the Sang and Schumacher groups?
…or the Aden group…or the Rongai group…
Im just as sick of it as you.
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Start of something big wrote:
Empress Wang wrote:
It’s also possible all of you are just butthurt because a Chinese woman is the greatest distance runner woman of all time. 🇨🇳
Dear Empress Wang,
I like your style, it reminds me of Jakir who vehemently defended the lion Makhloufi. I'd like to see more posts from you in the future, promoting the total domination and obliteration of Wang Junxia.
Thank you, commoner. I will grant your wish. But I shall do it in a separate thread. The Empress deserves to have her own thread, not be a secondary subject in a thread about a poser who will never be as great as the Empress. Stay tuned…
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those who know wrote:
Chef Gordon Ramzi wrote:
Flotrack bugmen are implying this is the clean world record or some other such nonsense. As in, we're supposed to disregard all 90s Chinese times but assume Kenyan times are legitimate, when it's Kenya who's been linked to bust after bust this past decade. Absolutely comical.
My "favorite" part is, even with all the 2025-era dope, Italian coaching, wavelights, pacers, clown shoes, etc Chebet still didn't get *that* close to 8:06. Wang Junxia, I kneel.
agree with all of this but that chinese track was 10000% short. it was torn down immedietly after the 1993 games ended.
The Chinese men ran on the same track and had unremarkable performances. The track was not short.
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Still think Junxia's 3000m run was one of the most outstanding athletic achievements in history.
Wonder how many points it would have been worth back then?
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It's an absolutely incredible record but broadly in line with the records that surround it - equivalent to a 3:49 1500 or a 13:54 5K according to WA scoring tables. Chebet has already achieved the latter, albeit on the roads with male pacers. And she likely breaks 14 this year on the track too.
If the 3k were an Olympic event her and Kipyegon would have probably cracked 8:10 and then you're within a few seconds. Instead, the record was a full 10 seconds ahead of the fastest non-Chinese until yesterday.
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No they dont train together you liar they just share the same management(Rosa). The two doping sisters (sheila chelangat and faith chepkoech) train in kericho coached by kiptanui while chebet trains in eldoret and coached by Peter Bii
And before you blame coaches and management athletes are not children who will be told by someone else to dope and just do it. If you have ever been around athletes its usually a personal decision. A selfish person in your training group who wants to dope will not come to you and tell you they plan to dope its always a secret to themselves. Most of the times even the coach and training mates are caught of guard in kenya that their athlete is doping
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Wait isn’t it like a really big deal if a dude runs 8:00? And a woman just ran 8:11? What the… 🤯🤯🤯
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Start of something big wrote:
Empress Wang wrote:
It’s also possible all of you are just butthurt because a Chinese woman is the greatest distance runner woman of all time. 🇨🇳
Dear Empress Wang,
I like your style, it reminds me of Jakir who vehemently defended the lion Makhloufi. I'd like to see more posts from you in the future, promoting the total domination and obliteration of Wang Junxia.
+1
She is the female Asian twin of Coevett.
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l.o.l wrote:
No they dont train together you liar they just share the same management(Rosa). The two doping sisters (sheila chelangat and faith chepkoech) train in kericho coached by kiptanui while chebet trains in eldoret and coached by Peter Bii
And before you blame coaches and management athletes are not children who will be told by someone else to dope and just do it. If you have ever been around athletes its usually a personal decision. A selfish person in your training group who wants to dope will not come to you and tell you they plan to dope its always a secret to themselves. Most of the times even the coach and training mates are caught of guard in kenya that their athlete is doping
And to counter your second point, Chepkoech admitted that she was injected with an unknown substance a few days before her positive EPO test. I don’t think honest athletes are are letting people inject them with mystery substances.
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those who know wrote:
Chef Gordon Ramzi wrote:
Flotrack bugmen are implying this is the clean world record or some other such nonsense. As in, we're supposed to disregard all 90s Chinese times but assume Kenyan times are legitimate, when it's Kenya who's been linked to bust after bust this past decade. Absolutely comical.
My "favorite" part is, even with all the 2025-era dope, Italian coaching, wavelights, pacers, clown shoes, etc Chebet still didn't get *that* close to 8:06. Wang Junxia, I kneel.
agree with all of this but that chinese track was 10000% short. * it was torn down immedietly * after the 1993 games ended.
Just like the Wuhan market that likely launched covid. I sense a trend.
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Those who say the track was short obviously never watched them at Stuttgart just a few weeks prior.
The 1500 winner closed in 1.57 for the last 800. In the the 3k they locked out the podium with a sub 60 final lap. Wang in 10k closed the last mile in 4.20 in 30 degree heat looking as easy as anyone you'll ever see.
Why would they need a short track?
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Yes. Plus, only the women ran superfast on that track. I wager whatever they had worked a lot better for the women than for the men.
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The Original Poster wrote:
And to counter your second point, Chepkoech admitted that she was injected with an unknown substance a few days before her positive EPO test. I don’t think honest athletes are are letting people inject them with mystery substances.
This much more recent article notes she works out at Kamariny in Iten, and her husband Peter Bii assists in her coaching. She is from Kericho, so the logical conclusion is she is advised by the coach in Kericho (given workouts), but operates in Iten under Biis watch and the numerous male pacers there:This post was edited 2 minutes after it was posted.52 -
l.o.l wrote:
No they dont train together you liar they just share the same management(Rosa). The two doping sisters (sheila chelangat and faith chepkoech) train in kericho coached by kiptanui while chebet trains in eldoret and coached by Peter Bii
And before you blame coaches and management athletes are not children who will be told by someone else to dope and just do it. If you have ever been around athletes it’s usually a personal decision. A selfish person in your training group who wants to dope will not come to you and tell you they plan to dope its always a secret to themselves. Most of the times even the coach and training mates are caught of guard in kenya that their athlete is doping
Chebet trains with Kiptanui, and gives him a lot of credit for her winning ways. Obviously, this is also Chelangat and Chepkoech’s coach as well. All three share the same Italian management group (Rosa).
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Her coach coming up as a junior was paul kemei in lemotit kericho (a junior athletics camp in kenya). After junior years (mostly 20 -22) you are allocated a different senior camp and coach by Rosa. She was allocated gabriel kiptanui but she stayed with gabriel only a year and requested to move out and train with her husband and coach peter bii
So no Gabriel kiptanui is not her coach and no they dont train together. As from rumours the camp was underperforming since only chebet was the only good athlete they had in that one year she stayed and was bringing in money and she left. Contracts of athletes who dont show any improvements were going to be reduced and or cut off completely since the whole camp its a lot of money out but little or no money in
The two sisters probably doped out of desperation to keep their contracts. Especially sheila chelangat who has never perfomed well internationally apart from a world junior bronze
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l.o.l wrote:
Her coach coming up as a junior was paul kemei in lemotit kericho (a junior athletics camp in kenya). After junior years (mostly 20 -22) you are allocated a different senior camp and coach by Rosa. She was allocated gabriel kiptanui but she stayed with gabriel only a year and requested to move out and train with her husband and coach peter bii
So no Gabriel kiptanui is not her coach and no they dont train together. As from rumours the camp was underperforming since only chebet was the only good athlete they had in that one year she stayed and was bringing in money and she left. Contracts of athletes who dont show any improvements were going to be reduced and or cut off completely since the whole camp its a lot of money out but little or no money in
The two sisters probably doped out of desperation to keep their contracts. Especially sheila chelangat who has never perfomed well internationally apart from a world junior bronze
"allocated a coach by Rosa"...????? I think maybe a potential problem has been identified.
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Obviously wrong wording lol. she was transfered to a senior camp. Due to the rampant predator problem kenyan camps junior female athletes dont train with senior athletes. Chebet was born in kericho and once she transitioned from junior she was transfered to the senior camp in kericho since it was convenient (home town) where kiptanui is the coach but didnt like it there she moved out
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Empress Wang wrote:
It’s also possible all of you are just butthurt because a Chinese woman is the greatest distance runner woman of all time. 🇨🇳
No she's not, there are plenty of men that are way more better
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