This is the hill the left and the media choose to die on over and over again.
Garcia. Floyd. Luigi. Trayvon.
Transgender mice. Reading trans picture books to children. Cutting genitalia off of children. Taking over college libraries in support of a Terrorist organization. Tampons in the mens restroom..the list is endless.
This is what the d!psh!Ts defending this pos keep citing and as usual they’re wrong.
“nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process”
He’s not being deprived any of these things. He’s just being sent home. No different than being kicked out of a club.
But he is being sent to jail. And even worse, a jail we have no control over. I think there would be a lot less uproar if he was just sent "home" to his town or village or whatever. That is not what is happening.
But don't get me wrong, I am okay with the idea of deportations. We are a rule of law country and you can't just sneak in to the USA and expect to live here without the risk of getting sent home.
My problem is with the lack of a system to determine who you are. We can't just grab whomever we want and send them to a prison. A judge is supposed to decide that kind of stuff after you get to explain your side of the story. Once you have your day in court, then I am fine trusting the system. But there needs to be a system.
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“nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process”
He’s not being deprived any of these things. He’s just being sent home. No different than being kicked out of a club.
But he is being sent to jail. And even worse, a jail we have no control over. I think there would be a lot less uproar if he was just sent "home" to his town or village or whatever. That is not what is happening.
But don't get me wrong, I am okay with the idea of deportations. We are a rule of law country and you can't just sneak in to the USA and expect to live here without the risk of getting sent home.
My problem is with the lack of a system to determine who you are. We can't just grab whomever we want and send them to a prison. A judge is supposed to decide that kind of stuff after you get to explain your side of the story. Once you have your day in court, then I am fine trusting the system. But there needs to be a system.
I think the system's working pretty well, but it's not perfect. It's hard to be perfect when you're dealing with the kind of numbers we have out there.
That this is the case they are going to bat over the hardest, tells me they are mostly doing a pretty good job.
I think the system's working pretty well, but it's not perfect. It's hard to be perfect when you're dealing with the kind of numbers we have out there.
That this is the case they are going to bat over the hardest, tells me they are mostly doing a pretty good job.
That is a good point. If they were grabbing citizens and non-criminals off the street, that would be the front page news, not this guy.
That said, many people don't like the fact that the supreme court said this guy has to come back and their decision was just ignored. What people (who I am talking to) are most worried about is not this guy as an individual, but the fact that the court was just ignored.
Too many on the Right get off on the Andrew Jackson quote, "Justice Marshall has made his decision, now let him enforce it!" Do you trust that the system of checks-and-balances (separation of powers) is still in play?
But he is being sent to jail. And even worse, a jail we have no control over. I think there would be a lot less uproar if he was just sent "home" to his town or village or whatever. That is not what is happening.
But don't get me wrong, I am okay with the idea of deportations. We are a rule of law country and you can't just sneak in to the USA and expect to live here without the risk of getting sent home.
My problem is with the lack of a system to determine who you are. We can't just grab whomever we want and send them to a prison. A judge is supposed to decide that kind of stuff after you get to explain your side of the story. Once you have your day in court, then I am fine trusting the system. But there needs to be a system.
There’s no debate as to whether or not he’s illegal. He is. That he’s considered a criminal in his home country is not our problem.
Democrats and liberals bend over backwards for these people. Why?
This is the hill the left and the media choose to die on over and over again.
Garcia. Floyd. Luigi. Trayvon.
Transgender mice. Reading trans picture books to children. Cutting genitalia off of children. Taking over college libraries in support of a Terrorist organization. Tampons in the mens restroom..the list is endless.
At this point, the Democrat party would not exist were it not for its vote getting apparatus.
As Fetterman correctly stated, it’s boutique party, not a national one.
It's true, we can't have due process and courts of law to send away people who we believe are criminals. Like OP, 410 runner, for example. I'm 99% he is in this country illegally and beats his wife on a regular basis. 410 runner does not deserve his day in court, because he's obviously a bad person. Do you want HIM in your neighborhood?
Is he a member of a known terrorist organization like your hero in MS-13?
How do we know he's not? Obviously the right thing, the constitutional thing, would be to give 410 runner due process. That's what we do here. Shame on you for suggesting that 410 runner should be deported just because people believe he is a gang member
Kilmar is such an obvious gangbanger. I guarantee you that every cop and corrections officer in the US is laughing his ass off at the liberals who support this terrorist. There is a police bodycam video of him trafficking 7 men from the Texas border to Maryland 2022:
That is a good point. If they were grabbing citizens and non-criminals off the street, that would be the front page news, not this guy.
That said, many people don't like the fact that the supreme court said this guy has to come back and their decision was just ignored. What people (who I am talking to) are most worried about is not this guy as an individual, but the fact that the court was just ignored.
Too many on the Right get off on the Andrew Jackson quote, "Justice Marshall has made his decision, now let him enforce it!" Do you trust that the system of checks-and-balances (separation of powers) is still in play?
The Court was not ignored.
Trump will send a big beautiful airplane (gifted from Qatar) to pick up the "Maryland man" if and when Bukele releases him from Salvadoran custody.
He is home - right where he belongs, which is an El Salvadoran prison.
Yes, everyone deserves "Due Process", and their day in court, BUT...
With regard to Mr. Garcia, he is confirmed to have been an "illegal" resident of the United States, correct? There is no doubt or question with this, correct? There is no "Due Process" needed here, he does not possess the legal and or required documents to be a resident of the United States, which means he is in violation of the law and can be deported. The fact that he is being accused of domestic violence and being associated with a known violent gang which has been officially categorized as a "Terrorist" organization is an addition to his already proven and confirmed illegal residential status. I don't think anyone wants to deny "Due Process" to anyone, perhaps the U.S. can send a team of attorneys to El Salvador in conjunction with the Salvadoran government and conduct a court hearing and file formal charges against Mr. Garcia of the alleged crimes he committed of domestic violence and his affiliation with a known terrorist organization MS-13 in the U.S. Why should the American tax payers foot the bill to transport him back to the U.S., house him, feed him, provide a protective environment, when he's not an American citizen? He is a citizen of El Salvador and he should seek "Due Process" and his day in court in El Salvador with the assistance of the U.S. government in providing evidence and proof of his illegal activities. If found innocent, Mr. Garcia can be released from prison in El Salvador and go on with his life "IN" El Salvador where he is a legal citizen. If found guilty, he stays in prison "IN" El Salvador and serves his punishment for the crimes he committed in the U.S.
He had dur process when an immigration judge found he was likely an MS13 gang member here illegally. This was upheld on appeal. At that point he tried to claim he was seeking asylum (after having been here for years already and not having done so) saying he could not go back to El Salvador due to threats from a rival gang.
Am I missing something about this? He had due process as far as I can tell. The only argument i could see is that he technically should have been sent somewhere other than El Salvador. Is that what people are mad about? This guy doesn't seem like the hill to die on if you are a Dem.
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It's as simple is Democrats like illegals who rape and murder more than the typical American citizen. Democrats never cared at all by any of the American citizens captured by Hamas, but they get their nether regions all hot and bothered about "due process" for non citizens, and are foaming at the mouth to storm CECOT to let the animals out to be brought back to the U.S. Despicable.
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