Athing Mu. She doesn't care enough about running faster to dope.
Mu at least till met Kersey.
Tuohy
Goose and his formerly non annoying and now annoying coach.
good natural women on EPO can run 14 low and better.
I would mention some men except, I consider new nutraceuticals not on the PED list to be used, don't know details, it's soft cheating, in that you have to be in the know, have access, and so effective that it's a very uneven playing field.
Now if I were competiting, I'd be taking anything that's not toxic, effective and not on the banned list.
So I'm a hypocrite, misdemeanor level, versus EPO test, growth, nuclear peptides, that is murder 1.
Hot take, but Galen Rupp was 100% clean as a whistle… “by the book.” The whole point of Salazar’s science experiment was to use whatever janky methods possible to get close to but not quite break the rules. The act of never crossing that line was always the mental gymnastic barrier that was not “acceptable.” Absolutely a violation of the spirit of the rule but always 100% within the bounds of the letter of the law.
Tbh, I think the super shoes have obscured Rupp's period of distance running. It's easier to say he was clean because athletes now are running so much faster.
Shoes play a small part but that era was the Mo Farah sit and kick era. Even the races without Mo played out that way. Only exception was in Paris that one year where everybody decided to run their hearts out.
I wish I could put Klecker in this list but I am less certain about the guy. He seems so driven that he would try gray area supplements. And his coach received L Carnitine infusions.
Considering Jakob taking down world records since he was a little boy I would be surprised if he was doping. His year to year improvement seemed pretty rational.
Facts. When I saw him run 7:17, destroying one of the most revered records in track history (held by someone who many find suspect given the era), the first thought that came to my mind was that it seemed pretty rational.
One thing that everyone should know by now is that it’s totally common and expected for youth prodigies to continue to improve every year, ultimately to the point that they might hold every world record in their discipline at the same time.
Considering Jakob taking down world records since he was a little boy I would be surprised if he was doping. His year to year improvement seemed pretty rational.
I have the opposite opinion.
Jakob started training with 2 professional older brothers. One of them was on the likely doping list. So to me, it’s quite likely Jakob could have been doping longer than anyone.
Second, Gjert goes from no running / coaching experience to obsessive about blood work.
All red flags to me. Also, Norway had a no testing policy for kids below 18 and they also don’t test their adults vigorously.
They’ve only had one major star popped and she was only popped bc she got caught outside of Norway.
Was having a discussion on the SLR with some teammates about which elite athletes are you most convinced (past or present) were/are clean: specifically who is the highest performing clean athletes
Obv it's not about who you're favourite athlete is, but which elite athletes would you be willing to bet your life savings on being clean?
There are certain fan favourites that there is just too much doubt over, whether it be: - Some consider a tainted group: NOP, Bowerman - proximity to a popped athlete/training partners: Eliud's group, Dibaba family - shared management/agent: too many to name - banned Nations or vast history of doping: Russia, USSR, some old Chinese times, Kenya - athletes everyone screams must've doped from crazy performances: ElG, Kiptum, Eliud, Bekele, Faith, Sifan, Chep'n'getich, Kiplimo, Gidey, P.Radcliffe, Chebet, Cheptegei, Hull, Hunter-Bell - never received a ban, but we got dodgy news about them: Lagat, Amdouni, Makhloufi
The further you go back, the more difficult it can be to choose some names.
My suggestions: - Nick Willis - Pre - Cam Levins - Laura Weightman - Jack Rayner & Brett Robinson - Stephen Scullion - Joe Klecker, Morgan McDonald, Beamish, Hoare, Nuguse - Hocker & Teare - Laura Muir - Dina Asher Smith - Chris Thompson - Justyn Knight - Keely - Abdi Nur
Yes it's obvious I'm British.
Who else?
I am surprised that Kerr, Wightman, Heyward, Gourley and Mills aren´t on your list!?
You don't know what you don't know. The only athletes I am convinced are clean are the ones I know well enough to have a solid judge of their character. I only personally know two of the people on your list and I'm pretty sure one of them is doping.
Most of the B tier athletes grinding out their careers in relative obscurity are probably clean, like people whose greatest achievement might be an indoor national title against a watered down field.
I’m convinced that virtually all Olympic/World medalists are doping.
Was having a discussion on the SLR with some teammates about which elite athletes are you most convinced (past or present) were/are clean: specifically who is the highest performing clean athletes
Obv it's not about who you're favourite athlete is, but which elite athletes would you be willing to bet your life savings on being clean?
There are certain fan favourites that there is just too much doubt over, whether it be: - Some consider a tainted group: NOP, Bowerman - proximity to a popped athlete/training partners: Eliud's group, Dibaba family - shared management/agent: too many to name - banned Nations or vast history of doping: Russia, USSR, some old Chinese times, Kenya - athletes everyone screams must've doped from crazy performances: ElG, Kiptum, Eliud, Bekele, Faith, Sifan, Chep'n'getich, Kiplimo, Gidey, P.Radcliffe, Chebet, Cheptegei, Hull, Hunter-Bell - never received a ban, but we got dodgy news about them: Lagat, Amdouni, Makhloufi
The further you go back, the more difficult it can be to choose some names.
My suggestions: - Nick Willis - Pre - Cam Levins - Laura Weightman - Jack Rayner & Brett Robinson - Stephen Scullion - Joe Klecker, Morgan McDonald, Beamish, Hoare, Nuguse - Hocker & Teare - Laura Muir - Dina Asher Smith - Chris Thompson - Justyn Knight - Keely - Abdi Nur
Yes it's obvious I'm British.
Who else?
i think caster semenya ,francine niyonsaba ,maria mutola,beatrice masilingi ,christine mboma and margaret wambui were clean.