3:50.89 for Nico Young

jabouko · 2025-02-15T17:10:45-05:00

Great progression from him. Never thought he could approach the low 3:50s--awesome sign for outdoors.LRC Update: Here are the results.Place Athlete Time Heat 1 Nico Young (Adidas) 3:50.89 M 1 2 Jude Thomas (Melbourne Track Club) 3:51.19 M 1 3 Kieran Lumb (On) 3:51.89 M 1 4 Joe Waskom (Adidas) 3:52.48 M 1 5 Aidan McCarthy (Cal Poly) 3:52.83 M 1 6 Henry Wynne (Brooks Beasts) 3:52.86 M 1 7 Thomas Diamond (Washington) 3:55.53 1 8 Brian Fay (Melbourne Track Club) 3:56.07 1 9 Lucas Bons (BYU) 3:56.45 1 10 Habtom Samuel (New Mexico) 3:57.09 1 11 Lukas Kiprop (New Mexico) 4:00.95 1 DNF David Mullarkey (Northern Arizona) 1 DNF Parker Stokes (Brooks Beasts) 1 DNS Cole Lindhorst (Washington) 1https://pntfo.trackscoreboard....

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1 year ago 02/16/2025 12:24pm EST

re: zxcvzxcv

zxcvzxcv wrote:
My sense is that his aerobic strength right now is a bit behind last year, whereas his mile is about right, considering that he ran an altitude-adjusted 3:48 mile last year and that he ran 7:39 the day before this 3:50. Note that last year he beat Samuel in the 10k and was probably in 7:30 3k shape indoors, and this year Samuel outkicked him in an underdistance race for Samuel, who could run only 3:57 in the mile in his double. Nico also did a shorter version of the 1k repeats than Bosley that is up on video, sharpening at the end instead of doing 12x1k, which suggested to me that he had a bit of an injury or illness delaying some of his winter buildup. But 7:39/3:50 is still a great opening double and I expect he'll be in sub-27 shape for the ten.

I don’t think so. The 7:39 was not all out and otherwise he could have broken 7:30. He’s near the top of his game for any distance and I hope he runs The Ten and takes 10+ seconds off his PR.

1 year ago 02/16/2025 12:26pm EST

re: Peach Pit

Peach Pit wrote:
THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
3:33.79 with the conversion. I don’t know if I’d call Nico a 10K guy though. His best event might be the 5,000 though it’s unclear.
Depends on what you mean by best event. I'm sure he could run a nasty 5k, and be one of the best in the country, but I think he's got a way better chance at making the 10k team than the 5k team. Wolfe beat him at NCAAs last year in the 5k, and arguably Blanks was better than Wolfe last year by the time the Olympics rolled around. You're right that it's unclear though, it's hard to know when he hasn't raced a 5k in so long.

Could be that he runs them equally well. Ideal distance may lie between the two events.

There have been guys that moved between the two with similar success.

1 year ago 02/16/2025 1:04pm EST

re: TheRealScotty

TheRealScotty wrote:
Peach Pit wrote:
Depends on what you mean by best event. I'm sure he could run a nasty 5k, and be one of the best in the country, but I think he's got a way better chance at making the 10k team than the 5k team. Wolfe beat him at NCAAs last year in the 5k, and arguably Blanks was better than Wolfe last year by the time the Olympics rolled around. You're right that it's unclear though, it's hard to know when he hasn't raced a 5k in so long.
Could be that he runs them equally well. Ideal distance may lie between the two events.
There have been guys that moved between the two with similar success.

His 5 and 10 PRs line up with the times two, plus 60 conversion, which indicates he is equally good at the two distances and all points in between.

1 year ago 02/16/2025 1:16pm EST

re: Kickers usually win

Kickers usually win wrote:
zxcvzxcv wrote:
My sense is that his aerobic strength right now is a bit behind last year, whereas his mile is about right, considering that he ran an altitude-adjusted 3:48 mile last year and that he ran 7:39 the day before this 3:50. Note that last year he beat Samuel in the 10k and was probably in 7:30 3k shape indoors, and this year Samuel outkicked him in an underdistance race for Samuel, who could run only 3:57 in the mile in his double. Nico also did a shorter version of the 1k repeats than Bosley that is up on video, sharpening at the end instead of doing 12x1k, which suggested to me that he had a bit of an injury or illness delaying some of his winter buildup. But 7:39/3:50 is still a great opening double and I expect he'll be in sub-27 shape for the ten.
I don’t think so. The 7:39 was not all out and otherwise he could have broken 7:30. He’s near the top of his game for any distance and I hope he runs The Ten and takes 10+ seconds off his PR.

Want you know this how

1 year ago 02/16/2025 1:16pm EST

re: jabouko

I have been saying for some time now that entire crew is doping.

You’re telling me young doubles back after running 7:36 getting beat by Samuel the Collegian and runs 3:50.

1 year ago 02/16/2025 1:21pm EST

re: TGOBLINO1

TGOBLINO1 wrote:
I have been saying for some time now that entire crew is doping.
You’re telling me young doubles back after running 7:36 getting beat by Samuel the Collegian and runs 3:50.

He ran 7:39.x not 7:36

1 year ago 02/16/2025 1:26pm EST

re: Kick loser kick

Kick loser kick wrote:
Kickers usually win wrote:
I don’t think so. The 7:39 was not all out and otherwise he could have broken 7:30. He’s near the top of his game for any distance and I hope he runs The Ten and takes 10+ seconds off his PR.
Want you know this how

If you apply the formula to any 5/10 guy that’s run balls to wall PRs at both distances, It’s very accurate. That people are equally good at both is why there have been double golds and guys simultaneously holding the WRs. The 5/10 ratio is also an indicator of talent for the marathon.

1 year ago 02/16/2025 1:39pm EST

re: TheRealScotty

TheRealScotty wrote:
Peach Pit wrote:
Depends on what you mean by best event. I'm sure he could run a nasty 5k, and be one of the best in the country, but I think he's got a way better chance at making the 10k team than the 5k team. Wolfe beat him at NCAAs last year in the 5k, and arguably Blanks was better than Wolfe last year by the time the Olympics rolled around. You're right that it's unclear though, it's hard to know when he hasn't raced a 5k in so long.
Could be that he runs them equally well. Ideal distance may lie between the two events.
There have been guys that moved between the two with similar success.

Yeah I think his best path to making US teams is in the 10K, but that doesn’t mean it’s his best event. It’s been a similar story for Woody and Klecker before him as they’re better suited for that 10K team even though both were arguably better at 5,000. It is kinda weird that Nico looked smoother running 56-58s tempo in the mile than in a tactical 3K.

1 year ago 02/16/2025 1:49pm EST

re: THOUGHTSLEADER

Agreed. Nico can go in either event. 3:50.89 indicates more than adequate low end ability. Making teams is, of course, paramount. Probably a bit easier to make our team at 10k (right now) although he lines up just as well for the shorter event. He certainly has options.

1 year ago 02/16/2025 2:52pm EST

re: TheRealScotty

TheRealScotty wrote:
Agreed. Nico can go in either event. 3:50.89 indicates more than adequate low end ability. Making teams is, of course, paramount. Probably a bit easier to make our team at 10k (right now) although he lines up just as well for the shorter event. He certainly has options.

At USATF, he can double and see what happens. If he’s successful at both, there’s no reason he can’t double at the WC, as well.

1 year ago 02/16/2025 3:21pm EST

re: Josh439

What is every post on let’s run have to be so negative and comparing other runners and putting others down? Why can’t we all celebrate everyone’s achievements? I’m willing to bet 99.9% of the people posting on here. I haven’t even run anywhere near a four-minute mile, let alone, five or six-minute mile …

1 year ago 02/16/2025 3:41pm EST

re: Kickers usually win

Kickers usually win wrote:
TheRealScotty wrote:
Agreed. Nico can go in either event. 3:50.89 indicates more than adequate low end ability. Making teams is, of course, paramount. Probably a bit easier to make our team at 10k (right now) although he lines up just as well for the shorter event. He certainly has options.
At USATF, he can double and see what happens. If he’s successful at both, there’s no reason he can’t double at the WC, as well.

Go home and away

1 year ago 02/17/2025 6:16am EST

re: No kick post

Brian Fay is an absolute dogggggggggg. How much longer can he continue getting lanes in races from his 13:01 3 years ago which is more dubious than Kiplimos run yesturday

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