Hold on. We blew out kids when Quincy Wilson ran 1:17 last week, a 44 sec 400m gold medalist and Colin drops a 1:17 as the high school XC record holder and it’s yawn time?
dude running 1:44.2, 3:32.0, 12:56
The US men’s team for the 1500 is going to be such a brutal team to make this next Olympic cycle. Hocker, Nuguse, and Kessler just entering their primes. The same is true for Green, Waskom, Sahlman, Martin, Strand, Murphy, Cook, Birnbaum, etc. Plausible to think we may have multiple US sub-3:30 guys that never make an outdoor world team. And I can’t believe I’m saying that.
I remember a year ago thinking people were obnoxious when they said Cooper Teare should do the steeple. But with the emergence of Wolfe/Blanks/Young in the 5000 (plus Fisher & Nur) and the strength of this 1500 crop, guys like Teare probably need to look to the steeple if they ever want to make a US team.
I don’t want to rain on your parade but he’s run 1:45.6/3:33.9, which means he’s an 800/1500 guy. Still, an impressive double and his raw 400 speed is in a more exclusive class with Kessler and Green among US 1500m runners.
I know he's ran a fast 800 already, however he's also ran 13:38 and was considered the best xc runner in the country during his high school days. I think the majority of fans see his build as 1500/5000.
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I also think he is a 1500/5000m type as he is more along the type of athlete as Said Aouita (who ran one season of the 800m and 10000m and posted 1:43.6 injured and Olympic medal within one or two years hitting 27:20 debut only 7 seconds of then WR). Colin will have similar range but both were/are 1500/5000m athletes.
I don’t want to rain on your parade but he’s run 1:45.6/3:33.9, which means he’s an 800/1500 guy. Still, an impressive double and his raw 400 speed is in a more exclusive class with Kessler and Green among US 1500m runners.
I know he's ran a fast 800 already, however he's also ran 13:38 and was considered the best xc runner in the country during his high school days. I think the majority of fans see his build as 1500/5000.
Hmmm, sounds very reminiscent of a certain former NAU stud with ridiculous range:
Lomong - 1:45, 3;36, 1500m Olympian while in NCAA, but also a 3rd and 4th in XC and an indoor 3000m title.
I know he's ran a fast 800 already, however he's also ran 13:38 and was considered the best xc runner in the country during his high school days. I think the majority of fans see his build as 1500/5000.
I know he's ran a fast 800 already, however he's also ran 13:38 and was considered the best xc runner in the country during his high school days. I think the majority of fans see his build as 1500/5000.
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I also think he is a 1500/5000m type as he is more along the type of athlete as Said Aouita (who ran one season of the 800m and 10000m and posted 1:43.6 injured and Olympic medal within one or two years hitting 27:20 debut only 7 seconds of then WR). Colin will have similar range but both were/are 1500/5000m athletes.
If he has that kind of range he would have already been in the top 10 at NCAA XC, and not over a minute back in 67th place.
The 5k might count as a middle distance race depending on what your background is (1500m-5000m runners may count as middle distance types and 5k/10k runners might count as long distance runners). Even Jakob him self claims to be a middle distance runner.
Long distance events
10,000m
Half marathon
15km road
10 miles
20km road
Middle distance events
800m
1500m
Mile
2000m
3000m
2 miles
4km
5000m
There is a true difference between long distance and middle distance. It's just the background of which the athlete comes from.
Come on, 5000m is a distance race for anyone that runs it. Google “middle distance” and see what you get. You actually believe the 10000m is the only distance race on the track?
I know he's ran a fast 800 already, however he's also ran 13:38 and was considered the best xc runner in the country during his high school days. I think the majority of fans see his build as 1500/5000.
Hmmm, sounds very reminiscent of a certain former NAU stud with ridiculous range:
Lomong - 1:45, 3;36, 1500m Olympian while in NCAA, but also a 3rd and 4th in XC and an indoor 3000m title.
Lomong finished in the top 4 of back to back NCAA Cross Championships is impressive as you note. In retrospect it’s pretty crazy how seriously he did the 800. But I don’t really see the Sahlman comp minus his HS pedigree.
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Is that how our works? Mo Farah ran 3:28.8. So he was a 1500/half marathon guy?
Every runner is different. Mo was a 5K guy with speed that could take him down to 1500 and endurance that went up to 10K. He wasn’t the same caliber at HM/Marathon. He wouldn’t have fared well in the 800 or 400.
So far Sahlman has shown better results at 800 than distances above the mile. That could change obviously, but it hasn’t quite translated in XC yet and we haven’t seen a reason to think he’d be exceptional at the 5,000. Obviously he’d be good.
It was dumb that Brosnan had Sahlman run 800m multiple times. He probably isn’t even in the top 20 all-time for the 800m, but he would have had a very good chance of taking down Verzbicas’s 2-mile time. Obviously the best XC runner in the nation would have been good at distances above a mile. He did run an 8:36 conversion from 3200m, which a better performance than his 800m best.
Not sure why this is being downvoted, I feel the same way.
Good opener by Sahlman, 1:17/48.6 is a tough double, especially at altitude but 1:17 isn't eye opening or anything lol. It doesn't even come close making the all-time NCAA top 25. If this was a 1:15 or something? Ok, that would be pretty nuts.
I will say that i'm not sure how many milers in the NCAA could run 1:17 right now though. Sahlman is part of a historically common, now rare breed of 800/1500 guys that haven't really reappeared until recently.
Hold on. We blew out kids when Quincy Wilson ran 1:17 last week, a 44 sec 400m gold medalist and Colin drops a 1:17 as the high school XC record holder and it’s yawn time?
dude running 1:44.2, 3:32.0, 12:56
1. 1:17 is subpar for a 44.2/1:50 runner
2. He's a high schooler, so running 1:17 at that level is more impressive anyway
Every runner is different. Mo was a 5K guy with speed that could take him down to 1500 and endurance that went up to 10K. He wasn’t the same caliber at HM/Marathon. He wouldn’t have fared well in the 800 or 400.
So far Sahlman has shown better results at 800 than distances above the mile. That could change obviously, but it hasn’t quite translated in XC yet and we haven’t seen a reason to think he’d be exceptional at the 5,000. Obviously he’d be good.
It was dumb that Brosnan had Sahlman run 800m multiple times. He probably isn’t even in the top 20 all-time for the 800m, but he would have had a very good chance of taking down Verzbicas’s 2-mile time. Obviously the best XC runner in the nation would have been good at distances above a mile. He did run an 8:36 conversion from 3200m, which a better performance than his 800m best.
Of course he's not top 20 all time for 800 and I don't think he ever will be (even though he's still a very good runner). According to World Athletics, the #20 all time 800 is 1:42.37 by Mohammed Aman
Not sure why this is being downvoted, I feel the same way.
Good opener by Sahlman, 1:17/48.6 is a tough double, especially at altitude but 1:17 isn't eye opening or anything lol. It doesn't even come close making the all-time NCAA top 25. If this was a 1:15 or something? Ok, that would be pretty nuts.
I will say that i'm not sure how many milers in the NCAA could run 1:17 right now though. Sahlman is part of a historically common, now rare breed of 800/1500 guys that haven't really reappeared until recently.
Hold on. We blew out kids when Quincy Wilson ran 1:17 last week, a 44 sec 400m gold medalist and Colin drops a 1:17 as the high school XC record holder and it’s yawn time?
dude running 1:44.2, 3:32.0, 12:56
Thank you! Well said! There are 1:46 800m specialists in the country who only have a 600m PR of 1:18-1:19. The impressive part is it was January 10th! And hes a miler!
I know he's ran a fast 800 already, however he's also ran 13:38 and was considered the best xc runner in the country during his high school days. I think the majority of fans see his build as 1500/5000.
He's ran? Are you serious right now?
Sorry bro, I have terrible grammar, I will work on it.
The US men’s team for the 1500 is going to be such a brutal team to make this next Olympic cycle. Hocker, Nuguse, and Kessler just entering their primes. The same is true for Green, Waskom, Sahlman, Martin, Strand, Murphy, Cook, Birnbaum, etc. Plausible to think we may have multiple US sub-3:30 guys that never make an outdoor world team. And I can’t believe I’m saying that.
I remember a year ago thinking people were obnoxious when they said Cooper Teare should do the steeple. But with the emergence of Wolfe/Blanks/Young in the 5000 (plus Fisher & Nur) and the strength of this 1500 crop, guys like Teare probably need to look to the steeple if they ever want to make a US team.
the 600m coverts to 1:18.5 at 7000 feet and the 400m to 49.3
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Apparently your comprehensive skills HAS NOT developed yet but WILL in the future. Notice the capitalized words, one that I used in my post and you decided to alter to make a mockery of yourself in your post 😳. Alrighty then take care 👍
That’s one of the more bizarre insults I’ve ever seen on LR. Please READ my POST again, because I think you MISUNDERSTOOD it.
Were you aware that a word has the same meaning in both upper and lower case?
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