Jakob hasn't seriously raced the 800 m in years. In prime shape (i.e: 3:26 1500, 3:43 mile, 4:43 2000, 7:17 3000), he can run 1:44-1:45 in my opinion without doing any 800m specific training, just by virtue of having supreme speed endurance in the 1500/mile/2000/3000.
I don’t think you understand distance running at all. Walker had a kick until the Brits showed up. His kick against Ovett in the 1977 WC 1500m, included stepping off the track with 150m to go. Ingebrigtsen wins championship 5000m races compared to Walker not being able to keep up with the leaders in the 1984 Olympic 5000m.
If Ingebrigtsen and Walker went head to head, the pace would have to be north of 3:40 for Walker to have a chance.
Walker had a kick. Ingebrigtsen doesn't. And you don't have a clue what a kick is.
What are you talking about? Walker couldn’t outkick the Brits, or Steve Scott. He even decided to move up to the 5000m for the 1984 Olympics.
Jakobs problem is not speed in these races at faster than 3:35. His speed looked pretty good in Brussels DL final last year. His problem is running out of gas in championship finals cuz he does too much work stubbornly. Even vs Wightman he was kicking fine, he just let Wightman get by him (big mistake) and didn’t make the race fast enough to have some major kicking advantage after using up energy holding the lead.
11
1
he hates Jakob more than he hates his wife's boyfriend
I don’t think you understand distance running at all. Walker had a kick until the Brits showed up. His kick against Ovett in the 1977 WC 1500m, included stepping off the track with 150m to go. Ingebrigtsen wins championship 5000m races compared to Walker not being able to keep up with the leaders in the 1984 Olympic 5000m.
If Ingebrigtsen and Walker went head to head, the pace would have to be north of 3:40 for Walker to have a chance.
Walker had a kick. Ingebrigtsen doesn't. And you don't have a clue what a kick is.
Walker started having serious leg problems, calves and blood flow restriction somewhere in late 75, and in 76 his build up was compromised, none the less he came to the OG with 85%, but his money in the bank career aerobic work and natural speed carried him through.
Montreal 76 was the end of A game Walker, and he never again brought his top speed to the final lap, though he was able to maintain a upper B game for a decade plus more.
Bayi, who was capable of 330 solo, was hit with malaria time and again, and was similarly knocked out of action.
The Walker of 75, ran 349 virtually solo, with bad pacing of 55 plus 60 out the gate, and on a so so track. and a 2000m in 350 solo in wind and rain ...
In a perfect world, Walker Bayi Ovett Coe would have had epic battles for their first couple of years of prime track life.
Ovett and Coe, and Cram, and include Elliot, should have run 345 miles at that time.
On today's tracks with all the advantages and shoes, all these people can compete in the last OG...
Of all runners, only Coe was revolutionary, with his 45 400 capability combined with cross country prowess, and somehow never laid down the 326 1500 in his day.
Walker had a kick. Ingebrigtsen doesn't. And you don't have a clue what a kick is.
Of all runners, only Coe was revolutionary, with his 45 400 capability combined with cross country prowess, and somehow never laid down the 326 1500 in his day.
what's your evidence for coe having 45 400m capability? his relay splits? Coe ran 46.8 FAT which is great speed for a 800/1500 runner but a far cry from the 45 capability you claim.
Why do you feel a need to lie/exaggerate? 46 mid speed is still a great thing to mention.
Exactly. My point. I don't agree that a 3:26.7 guy lacks 400/800m speed. He built those speed bases since he was 15-17. What he does is that he goes out very hard and pays the price ( lactate threshold does not mean anything, the timing of moves and pacing also matters) so he has no option but to accept the pressure.
Apparently reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit. I was specifically talking about what he would need to do to win global championship 1500s, and I specifically mentioned the 2021 Olympics as the exception. The link you provided shows 2021 as his only Olympic or world 1500 gold.
I know he’s decorated on the Olympic and world championship stage in longer events, the point of the discussion was what he could do to be able to win more non-rabbited 1500s at big championships.