Leftist will destroy women’s sports if they can.
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How about trans athletes competing in their identity without taking podium spots, medals, or all district recognition? It’s very clear that the majority of trans athletes are not statistically top level, whether in boys or girls designated sports. The myth of trans athletes stealing college scholarships/admissions has also long been dismissed . . . By everyone. As far as behavior in locker rooms and bathrooms? I’m sure the language and attitude of most posters on this thread says enough about where the inappropriate, offensive, simply wrong behavior exists.
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Please list 5 athletes so that we can see how poorly they perform since you said it is clear.
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boysplayinggirlssports wrote:
I have no problem with a boy who believes himself to be a girl training with the girls' cross country team. I have three daughters, and while they are still too young for cross country, I'm quite sure at least one of them will run, so this isn't theoretical for me. What I am not OK with:
1.) XY people in the girls' locker room with my daughter
2.) XY people COMPETING against my daughters
Some teams train together, some train apart. If it appeases the trans enthusiasts, it really doesn't hurt anyone for a transgender girl to train with the girls in cross country or track. So I'm all for it. (Obviously, this would not work for many team sports.) But robbing actual girls of medals, podium spots, all-district/region/state status, etc., - absolutely not OK.
There won’t be a grand bargain. If we allow for people to “change” their gender/sex, we have to allow it across the board. It makes no sense to tell people, “Yes we acknowledge your power to be whatever gender you want. Except of course in sports, where we adhere to rigid sex distinctions.” The activists won’t accept it as they will see it (correctly) as hypocrisy.
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Vince Matthews Fan wrote:
How about trans athletes competing in their identity without taking podium spots, medals, or all district recognition? It’s very clear that the majority of trans athletes are not statistically top level, whether in boys or girls designated sports. The myth of trans athletes stealing college scholarships/admissions has also long been dismissed . . . By everyone. As far as behavior in locker rooms and bathrooms? I’m sure the language and attitude of most posters on this thread says enough about where the inappropriate, offensive, simply wrong behavior exists.
You sure about that?
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Deno wrote:
Growing up I was very protective over my three older sisters (HS age, early on they took turns kicking my butt) noway I allow some guy pretending to be a girl mess with them that wasn;t going to happen, of course back then we didn't have this trans stuff,
I wouldn't allow my daughter to be on the same track or court vs a guy,
Would your daughter be fine with you deciding when she can compete? If your daughter can run 17:00, should she sit because a 20:00 transgender athlete is in the race? What if refusing to run, costs her a scholarship?
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I am interested for him to provide the examples.of a bunch of boys who compete as girls and performers poorly. Seems more like they all do very well and they take awards away from girls. Seems sort of rude amd mean to me. It makes people not respect transgender people.
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Go, parents, Go!
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transatlantic wrote:
I am interested for him to provide the examples.of a bunch of boys who compete as girls and performers poorly. Seems more like they all do very well and they take awards away from girls. Seems sort of rude amd mean to me. It makes people not respect transgender people.
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A backup catcher on a high school team that went 6-13 in their best season. She didn't play a single game in her freshman season. (Her team went 10-26.)
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Have parents taken legal recourse?
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Precious Roy wrote:
My cousin's daughter is a trans female who came out in her early 20s and transitioned. She knew she was trans in junior high, but did not come out until after college because she feared what other people would do to her. She was in HS in the early 2000s. Even then, and in a fairly left leaning NJ suburb, kids who were LGBTQ were severely harassed and bullied. Even though she played soccer and ran XC on the boys' teams, she got called "f#g", "fugde packer" and all the other epithets repeatedly for playing flute in the HS band and mostly having friends who were girls. She eventually dropped out of sports and just did band because the girls in the flute section were all nice to her and the other boys in the band were far more tolerant that the kids on the sports teams.
Trans kids just want to be able to be themselves and do what all the other kids get to do in school. I understand that issues arise when a trans female has been through puberty and has physical advantages to athletes who are female from birth. But school sports are supposed to be there for everyone. There are ways to allow trans female athletes to be able to compete alongside athletes who are female at birth without taking anything away from those athletes.
You mentioned that "there are ways for trans athletes to be able to compete alongside (cis) female athletes".
The only way for this to be done would be for trans athletes to only be able to run in JV/Novice sections of races, and for their scores to be nulled in dual meets. They have an unfair advantage.
I don't like how women's sports gets discussed in trans activist circles like girls are just here to la-de-da have fun and pick flowers giggling with their friends. Girls are competitive, and these things matter to them. Watering it down is insulting to cis women athletes.
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Just Another Hobby Jogger wrote:
transatlantic wrote:
I am interested for him to provide the examples.of a bunch of boys who compete as girls and performers poorly. Seems more like they all do very well and they take awards away from girls. Seems sort of rude amd mean to me. It makes people not respect transgender people.
"Male dejected about not being able to compete in female sports"
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so much this wrote:
3a1n4o1n5y9m2o6u5s3 wrote:
Also, it's called gender dysphoria, not sexual dimorphism. It has nothing at all to do with sex. And your so called 'sexual dimorphism' doesn't apply to sports either.
Please read to find out what sexual dimorphism is and how it's a crucial concept for this discussion.
You sound like a “soyence” screamer in possession of a small amount of knowledge. Like the people who wear tshirts screaming XY != XX. It’s very cringe stupid coz everyone agrees that Y is not X, yet that obviousness has nothing to do with the trans issue.
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Mikeh33 wrote:
boysplayinggirlssports wrote:
I have no problem with a boy who believes himself to be a girl training with the girls' cross country team. I have three daughters, and while they are still too young for cross country, I'm quite sure at least one of them will run, so this isn't theoretical for me. What I am not OK with:
1.) XY people in the girls' locker room with my daughter
2.) XY people COMPETING against my daughters
Some teams train together, some train apart. If it appeases the trans enthusiasts, it really doesn't hurt anyone for a transgender girl to train with the girls in cross country or track. So I'm all for it. (Obviously, this would not work for many team sports.) But robbing actual girls of medals, podium spots, all-district/region/state status, etc., - absolutely not OK.
There won’t be a grand bargain. If we allow for people to “change” their gender/sex, we have to allow it across the board. It makes no sense to tell people, “Yes we acknowledge your power to be whatever gender you want. Except of course in sports, where we adhere to rigid sex distinctions.” The activists won’t accept it as they will see it (correctly) as hypocrisy.
It’s not hypocrisy, it’s science.
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You just posted your annual thread where you come out in favor of letting women's track turn into a side show while the men get all the attention in separate meets. So maybe sit this one out.
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