"coed division" as solution to "trans athletes as a wedge"

3a1n4o1n5y9m2o6u5s3 wrote:

As a transgender hs runner, I appreciate your attempt to make things better, however, I don't believe this would fix anything. In fact, I believe this would make things worse. It would give parents and students a reason to discriminate against any minority and try to force them to run in this gender inclusive division instead of the division they wish to compete in. It would also allow coaches to discriminate against the students and force them to run (or compete) in this division. They would be able to say that it is not due to their gender or their disability because that division is available to anyone, boy, girl, trans, non-binary, or anything else. In theory, this could be a nice idea, but with the nature of (sadly) most athletes or families of athletes, this would cause more harm that good.

MA6A wrote:

3a1n4o1n5y9m2o6u5s3 wrote:

As a transgender hs runner, I appreciate your attempt to make things better, however, I don't believe this would fix anything. In fact, I believe this would make things worse. It would give parents and students a reason to discriminate against any minority and try to force them to run in this gender inclusive division instead of the division they wish to compete in. It would also allow coaches to discriminate against the students and force them to run (or compete) in this division. They would be able to say that it is not due to their gender or their disability because that division is available to anyone, boy, girl, trans, non-binary, or anything else. In theory, this could be a nice idea, but with the nature of (sadly) most athletes or families of athletes, this would cause more harm that good.

Should some runners be able to openly dope without consequences?

3a1n4o1n5y9m2o6u5s3 wrote:

Vee_Eye_Tee wrote:

and just to note something from the thread, dude was saying a trans person should commit suicide just from 2 pages of us discussing this. whatever you think of trans in sports affecting girls pales in comparison.

to me that provokes a "who needs protecting first" sort of response.

i stand behind my idea as a bridge, but i hear enough of that sort of violent stuff and it'd be screw y'all, they get to compete as girls if the national guard has to be there.

Even though I may not think your idea will help much, I do appreciate your attempt to make things better, not to mention your concern for my well-being. So thank you.

And to everyone else, you say 'save girls sports' but what about 'save human lives'? Even if you don't think trans are the gender they identify as, even if we are wrong in the head, our lives are far more important than all divisions of all sports put together. We are still human, and human life deserves to be protected, at all costs.

3a1n4o1n5y9m2o6u5s3 wrote:

Vee_Eye_Tee wrote:

and just to note something from the thread, dude was saying a trans person should commit suicide just from 2 pages of us discussing this. whatever you think of trans in sports affecting girls pales in comparison.

to me that provokes a "who needs protecting first" sort of response.

i stand behind my idea as a bridge, but i hear enough of that sort of violent stuff and it'd be screw y'all, they get to compete as girls if the national guard has to be there.

Even though I may not think your idea will help much, I do appreciate your attempt to make things better, not to mention your concern for my well-being. So thank you.

And to everyone else, you say 'save girls sports' but what about 'save human lives'? Even if you don't think trans are the gender they identify as, even if we are wrong in the head, our lives are far more important than all divisions of all sports put together. We are still human, and human life deserves to be protected, at all costs.

3a1n4o1n5y9m2o6u5s3 wrote:

Vee_Eye_Tee wrote:

and just to note something from the thread, dude was saying a trans person should commit suicide just from 2 pages of us discussing this. whatever you think of trans in sports affecting girls pales in comparison.

to me that provokes a "who needs protecting first" sort of response.

i stand behind my idea as a bridge, but i hear enough of that sort of violent stuff and it'd be screw y'all, they get to compete as girls if the national guard has to be there.

Even though I may not think your idea will help much, I do appreciate your attempt to make things better, not to mention your concern for my well-being. So thank you.

And to everyone else, you say 'save girls sports' but what about 'save human lives'? Even if you don't think trans are the gender they identify as, even if we are wrong in the head, our lives are far more important than all divisions of all sports put together. We are still human, and human life deserves to be protected, at all costs.

3a1n4o1n5y9m2o6u5s3 wrote:

Vee_Eye_Tee wrote:

and just to note something from the thread, dude was saying a trans person should commit suicide just from 2 pages of us discussing this. whatever you think of trans in sports affecting girls pales in comparison.

to me that provokes a "who needs protecting first" sort of response.

i stand behind my idea as a bridge, but i hear enough of that sort of violent stuff and it'd be screw y'all, they get to compete as girls if the national guard has to be there.

Even though I may not think your idea will help much, I do appreciate your attempt to make things better, not to mention your concern for my well-being. So thank you.

And to everyone else, you say 'save girls sports' but what about 'save human lives'? Even if you don't think trans are the gender they identify as, even if we are wrong in the head, our lives are far more important than all divisions of all sports put together. We are still human, and human life deserves to be protected, at all costs.