Who you got on having a better professional career - Parker Valby or Katelyn Tuohy?

Pro News/Info/Results Distance

Moderation Moderation Information Moderation Information & Rules

Page 3 of 6

1 2 3 4 6

1 year ago 10/18/2024 2:33pm EDT

re: Tuohy is watching

Tuohy is watching wrote:
Millions of us were very excited to see Valby in the lead near the end of the race. Sounds like you dreamed about a race that didn't happen. Sorry that your life is so miserable that you didn't get excited about a young American competing with the best women in history.

Sorry, I didn't phrase that very well. I wasn't referring specifically to Valby. I liked the gutsy move and did indeed watch the race. I was happy to see her go for it!

I am just saying that it isn't the same thing as being truly in the mix internationally. I don't expect a 14:51 runner to be beating women who are gunning for the first sub-14. That is all I was getting at.

And yes, if she is running 14:51 without doping (and I don't think Valby or Tuohy are doping), then I still respect that more than a doped 13:59. The problem is that we are force fed the international freak show because that is what is "on camera" when we watch the races.

Every time you watched Lance Armstrong and Ivan Basso racing, you weren't watching a great, clean rider. It is the same with international track and field.

p.s. I am sorry I am so cynical right now. The 2:09 marathon was a shock.

1 year ago 10/18/2024 2:36pm EDT

re: Tuohy is watching

Tuohy is watching wrote:
You are clueless. Europe loves track. 30 million were watching just in the US. Hundreds of millions in the world were watching.

Yes, but none of those Europeans were jumping out of their seats to see an American with a 14:51 PR take the lead during the slowest part of the race before the elites even started the "real racing."

1 year ago 10/18/2024 2:50pm EDT

re: pappy t

pappy t wrote:
Both are supreme talents.

Wow, this should be deleted as "factually incorrect." "Supreme talent?" Tuohy? What are you smoking? The only "supreme talents" coming out of college the past two years are Valby and Wiley - one an Olympian, the other an American Record Holder and Indoor WC team. Tuohy cannot even be mentioned in the same sentence. Besides, the extreme jumps in performance in college by Tuohy versus the even and steady improvements by Valby and Wiley make her extremely suspicious. Run an 8:35 outof nowhere and two years later can barely beat the best high schoolers. And drug tests - Valby 4, Wiley 11, Tuohy 0.

Don't insult drug-free talents like Valby or Wiley.

1 year ago 10/18/2024 3:29pm EDT

re: Ruxton Towers XC

The Itialian woman earned a medal even though had the same PRs as Valby.

1 year ago 10/18/2024 3:32pm EDT

re: not this crap again

not this crap again wrote:
pappy t wrote:
Both are supreme talents.
Wow, this should be deleted as "factually incorrect." "Supreme talent?" Tuohy? What are you smoking? The only "supreme talents" coming out of college the past two years are Valby and Wiley - one an Olympian, the other an American Record Holder and Indoor WC team. Tuohy cannot even be mentioned in the same sentence. Besides, the extreme jumps in performance in college by Tuohy versus the even and steady improvements by Valby and Wiley make her extremely suspicious. Run an 8:35 outof nowhere and two years later can barely beat the best high schoolers. And drug tests - Valby 4, Wiley 11, Tuohy 0.
Don't insult drug-free talents like Valby or Wiley.

8:35 out of nowhere? She 9:05 and 4:33 5 years prior with no competition nor pacing.

But here is a question, I think right now Valby has 3 NCAA records and Tuohy 2. How many do they have next July? I saw maybe 1 each, or maybe zero.

1 year ago 10/18/2024 3:43pm EDT

re: rbtrackfan

I agree that her high school.performances were suspicious. She is barely faster now as a pro than at 16.

1 year ago 10/18/2024 3:55pm EDT

re: pappy t

Let's put it this way - Valby has accomplished as much in her 24-hour professional career as Tuohy has accomplished in her 10+ month professional career. Both signed a contract and nothing more.

1 year ago 10/18/2024 3:56pm EDT

re: pappy t

Parker Valby definitely in a great situation joining New Balance. she's always had endurance but now she has a team to help her with speed.

Katelyn Tuohy I'm still on the fence with. she's in Raleigh training with Coach Henes which is great but who exactly does she run with? the NC State team? are there any pros around her there to really push her. I know she goes to Flagstaff for altitude sessions occasinally and train with Elly Henes and Smith's pro's which is great. but I sometimes wonder if Raleigh is the best place for her. time will tell.

1 year ago 10/18/2024 4:00pm EDT

re: MattHatter

MattHatter wrote:
Parker Valby definitely in a great situation joining New Balance. she's always had endurance but now she has a team to help her with speed.
Katelyn Tuohy I'm still on the fence with. she's in Raleigh training with Coach Henes which is great but who exactly does she run with? the NC State team? are there any pros around her there to really push her. I know she goes to Flagstaff for altitude sessions occasinally and train with Elly Henes and Smith's pro's which is great. but I sometimes wonder if Raleigh is the best place for her. time will tell.

She trains with Ryan Hill often I thought. On an unrelated topic Bush is training in Flagstaff now, and still has Outdoor eligibility.

1 year ago 10/18/2024 4:09pm EDT

re: Tuohy is watching

Tuohy is watching wrote:
The Itialian woman earned a medal even though had the same PRs as Valby.

The Italian woman has run 4:00 and 14:32. She also put about 15 seconds on Valby, over the last lap in Paris.

1 year ago 10/18/2024 4:42pm EDT

re: rbtrackfan

rbtrackfan wrote:
MattHatter wrote:
Parker Valby definitely in a great situation joining New Balance. she's always had endurance but now she has a team to help her with speed.
Katelyn Tuohy I'm still on the fence with. she's in Raleigh training with Coach Henes which is great but who exactly does she run with? the NC State team? are there any pros around her there to really push her. I know she goes to Flagstaff for altitude sessions occasinally and train with Elly Henes and Smith's pro's which is great. but I sometimes wonder if Raleigh is the best place for her. time will tell.
She trains with Ryan Hill often I thought. On an unrelated topic Bush is training in Flagstaff now, and still has Outdoor eligibility.

I saw that. Elly Henes, Katelyn Tuohy, Hannah Steelman and Bush train together a lot. and Rachel Smith jumps in with them. that's a solid 5/10k group.

1 year ago 10/18/2024 5:28pm EDT

re: MattHatter

Valby will make more money and will crossover into mainstream notoriety.

1 year ago 10/18/2024 5:36pm EDT

re: not this crap again

not this crap again wrote:
pappy t wrote:
Both are supreme talents.
Wow, this should be deleted as "factually incorrect." "Supreme talent?" Tuohy? What are you smoking? The only "supreme talents" coming out of college the past two years are Valby and Wiley - one an Olympian, the other an American Record Holder and Indoor WC team. Tuohy cannot even be mentioned in the same sentence. Besides, the extreme jumps in performance in college by Tuohy versus the even and steady improvements by Valby and Wiley make her extremely suspicious. Run an 8:35 outof nowhere and two years later can barely beat the best high schoolers. And drug tests - Valby 4, Wiley 11, Tuohy 0.
Don't insult drug-free talents like Valby or Wiley.

How did Tuohy have an "extreme jump" in college? She ran like 15:30 in high school at a super young age and years later she runs 15:03. How is that an extreme jump? She is hardly progressing.

1 year ago 10/18/2024 5:41pm EDT

re: Cvbn

Cvbn wrote:
Valby will make more money and will crossover into mainstream notoriety.

mainstream notoriety? Has anyone in the last 30 years who runs anything over the 1500 had mainstream notoriety in the US?

1 year ago 10/18/2024 5:48pm EDT

re: bumblebee

bumblebee wrote:
Cvbn wrote:
Valby will make more money and will crossover into mainstream notoriety.
mainstream notoriety? Has anyone in the last 30 years who runs anything over the 1500 had mainstream notoriety in the US?

Forrest Gump?

1 year ago 10/18/2024 7:55pm EDT

re: westsouthrunner

westsouthrunner wrote:
Gawww wrote:
Are you admitting that even if the American women were using the same dope as the Africans that they cannot come close to 3:49, 14:00 and 28:58? I think this is true although I do believe that a doped Athing Mu can run 1:53 and 3:55, which is not nothing.
Honestly she can already run 3:55

But of course there is no evidence of this.

1 year ago 10/18/2024 7:57pm EDT

re: Gawww

Gawww wrote:
westsouthrunner wrote:
Honestly she can already run 3:55
But of course there is no evidence of this.

If Shelby Houlihan comes back and drops a 3:53 this place will go ballistic.

1 year ago 10/18/2024 8:28pm EDT

re: bumblebee

Nobody has run as fast as her. Nobody looked like her.

1 year ago 10/18/2024 10:02pm EDT

re: Ruxton Towers XC

Ruxton Towers XC wrote:
I think Valby will have the better PRs in the long run. But we need to temper our expectations a lot and quickly.
I hate to say it, but for me, women's running has kind of been ruined. I am not a big fan of the "everyone is doping" theory but honestly, with times like 3:49, 14:00, sub-29, and 2:09, there is NOTHING an American runner can do to be relevant in the coming era.
Remember when Jordan Hassay was trying to break 31:30 minutes in the 10km? She never did. Remember when she tried to break 15:30 in the 5km? She did it! 15:28! That is just "quaint" in the current era.
But getting back to Valby and Touhy... I don't think either of them can run the kind of kind of times we see today; and sadly, the next decade will be full of even more "insane" results. The coming wave of athletes will make everything American women do sort of irrelevant. It reminds me of how it was for American men in the late 1990s.

flotrack.org

Juliet Cherubet CRUSHES Parker Valby's Watts Cross Country Course Record Runs 18:37.0 For 6K

Juliet Cherubet CRUSHES Parker Valby's Watts Cross Country Course Record Runs 1837.0 For 6K

Open link

1 year ago 10/18/2024 10:32pm EDT

re: the time is now

the time is now wrote:
Ruxton Towers XC wrote:
I think Valby will have the better PRs in the long run. But we need to temper our expectations a lot and quickly.
I hate to say it, but for me, women's running has kind of been ruined. I am not a big fan of the "everyone is doping" theory but honestly, with times like 3:49, 14:00, sub-29, and 2:09, there is NOTHING an American runner can do to be relevant in the coming era.
Remember when Jordan Hassay was trying to break 31:30 minutes in the 10km? She never did. Remember when she tried to break 15:30 in the 5km? She did it! 15:28! That is just "quaint" in the current era.
But getting back to Valby and Touhy... I don't think either of them can run the kind of kind of times we see today; and sadly, the next decade will be full of even more "insane" results. The coming wave of athletes will make everything American women do sort of irrelevant. It reminds me of how it was for American men in the late 1990s.
Link:www.flotrack.org/video/12910675-juliet...

Here are her PRs from this past Spring track season. That’s one hell of an improvement in 6 months!

800M: 2:11

3K: 8:57
5K: 15:25

10K: 34:22

Page 3 of 6

1 2 3 4 6

Next Last

What People Are Talking About On LetsRun

No top threads at the moment. Check back soon.

Reply Replying to

Username

Password

Leave the password field blank to post anonymously.

Post Preview

By posting you acknowledge that you have read and abide by our Terms and Conditions.

Remember me on this device.

Who you got on having a better professional career - Parker Valby or Katelyn Tuohy?

This thread has already been deleted.

You have been subscribed.

Who you got on having a better professional career - Parker Valby or Katelyn Tuohy?

Jump To A Page

Follow Ruxton Towers XC

Block Ruxton Towers XC

Follow Ruxton Towers XC

Block Ruxton Towers XC

Follow rbtrackfan

Block rbtrackfan

Follow MattHatter

Block MattHatter

Follow rbtrackfan

Block rbtrackfan

Follow Kickers usually win

Block Kickers usually win

Follow MattHatter

Block MattHatter

Follow bumblebee

Block bumblebee

Follow Sally Vix

Block Sally Vix

Follow Thevoiceofreason

Block Thevoiceofreason

Jump To A Page

This thread has already been deleted.

Reply Replying to

You have been subscribed.