Not great, but not bad by any means. Keep in mind that he started this half-marathon 36 hours after running a 3:30 1500m i Brussels.
Jakob did a 27:54 in a 10k road race a couple of weeks after turning 19 (in bad conditions) He definitely has more potential in the half-marathon.
Also, he has been toying with Europe's best 10000m runners in the European XC Championships (2021 and 2022.) Absolutely destroyed runners like Kaya, Gressier, Cairess, Kimeli, Crippa, etc.
It definitely shows that a 10k and half are really different for a guy whose best distances are probably 3k/5k.
I’ve never bought that Jakob was actually a “half marathon man”, rather the best 3k/5k talent ever and so good that he can still dominate 1500/10ks. Maybe the 800 is too short for him and the half too long for now
A guy that has won a Gold Medal in the Olympics in the 1500m, 2 Silvers in the WC and is .73 seconds off the WR, is a 1500/5000m runner. He hasn’t proven he can dominate the 10K.
Your comment made my day sir!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for the support and heads up!!!!
Yes indeed this LRC board has gone insane with so many mentally irrational and unsound folks who can't reason and persuade from a proper anchor point!!!!!!!!!!!!! First they say Jakob trains like a 10k/HM guy and should run a very good HM but after the fact of Jakob's implosion changed their story to say Jakob should have trained like a 10k/HM guy because he previously didn't do so!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What kind of logic is that folks????? This board is embarrassing. I clearly remembered 'Thoughtsleader' among others who was selling Jakob as a 10k/HM guy and training like one, and many other LRC folks too!!!!!!!
These jakob femboys are totally deranged
Yes dear Trollminator darling, thanks for the heads up!!!! There are so many American fanboys of Jakob being very sure that Jakob is training like a 10k/HM guy and would smoke the distance like fish to water on his 1st try with a WR, otherwise, AT LEAST WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Who is Sebastian Sawe and Jacob Kiplimo?????? These are nothing for the 10k/HM GOAT endurance monster!!!!!!!!!!!!!! At the bare minimum, Jakob needs to win the HM on his 1st try against nobodys Sawe and Kiplimo----these are very slow tortoises for Jakob's monster speed and lactate endurance!!!!!!!
It definitely shows that a 10k and half are really different for a guy whose best distances are probably 3k/5k.
I’ve never bought that Jakob was actually a “half marathon man”, rather the best 3k/5k talent ever and so good that he can still dominate 1500/10ks. Maybe the 800 is too short for him and the half too long for now
A guy that has won a Gold Medal in the Olympics in the 1500m, 2 Silvers in the WC and is .73 seconds off the WR, is a 1500/5000m runner. He hasn’t proven he can dominate the 10K.
He doesn't need to prove he can dominate the 10k and HM, HE HIMSELF SAID IT HIMSELF!!!!!!!!!! He said THE LONGER THE DISTANCE THE BETTER HE SMOKES THEM ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You feeling me right???????????
And next, he shows us proof of his training geared towards longer and longer and longer distances!!!!!!!!!!!! He shows us threshold and more threshold workouts, higher mileages than Josh KERR and Hocker/Nuguse and all. Even Jonathan and Robert all concurred that Jakob was approaching the 1500m meter from a predominant aerobic angle and admitted Jakob is an aerobic monster!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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To say Jakob would break the world record is one thing, but for him to then take a break on the sidewalk and stroll to catch some oxygen into his blood is not only at odds with the first statement but SEVERELY AT ODDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's so severe to fall from the pedestal of 'breaking the world record' to resting and running, and resting and running his way to the finish line, you feeling me sir????????
That stark disparity is what is mentally suicidal in my opinion!!!!!! It's precisely the same for Eliud Kipchoge 'the goat' (but doped up) needing to rest by the sidewalk in Paris during the marathon race. It's extremely embarrassing but at least Eliud wasn't on the same doped up form and shape going in Paris Olympics so we can forgive him and it was less of an embarrassment!!!! But Jakob is different, he was going in the HM with a whole lot of legendary performances and WRs let alone him being touted as the aerobic monster where HM was his sweet spot distance!!!!!! So it cannot be forgiven Jakob for his spectacular failure!!!!
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These comments are getting ridiculous at this stage. Clearly, Jakob's high-volume training method is suited to longer distances. However, if you even listened to what Jakob said before the race, most of that training is done before the track season. I.e., since the winter, he has focused all of his training on peaking for the Paris 1500m/5000m by incorporating a lot more speed- specific work. Jakob is an endurance monster who still dominates the 1500m even if it isn't the distance he is built for.
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I still think he can break the HM one day with specific training and his supreme talent, but no, he's definitely not a HM guy despite his double threshold works. He's either a 3k/5k or a 5k/10k guy.
As for marathon, I don't think he will ever try one tbh except as a fun run.
Where I’ve been at with this one, and I’m not sure as about breaking the record (which Aregawi/Kiplimo might push further down). I bet he’ll race a marathon though, out of curiosity though less sure if he ever becomes a marathon guy. Certainly there were factors today that hurt (nearness to race, well after base training). I still think he runs in the 58s with a little focus during base training. But I don’t think he has interest now unless he can contend
Wait a min Noah sir, I remembered you were the one earlier in the year or recently touting Jakob as a 10k/HM sweetspot distance and trains like it. You were one of those in agreement that Jakob is an aerobic monster who would succeed at 10k/HM much more easily if he moved up sooner than stick around with the 1500m and mile!!!!!!!
Why are you changing the story now sir???? Please explain!!!!
These comments are getting ridiculous at this stage. Clearly, Jakob's high-volume training method is suited to longer distances. However, if you even listened to what Jakob said before the race, most of that training is done before the track season. I.e., since the winter, he has focused all of his training on peaking for the Paris 1500m/5000m by incorporating a lot more speed- specific work. Jakob is an endurance monster who still dominates the 1500m even if it isn't the distance he is built for.
My pre-race prediction was for Jakob to win, I didn't think he would get the WR but he would definitely outkick and smoke all the tortoises like Kiplimo and Sawe----these are nothing for Jakob to handle due also to my belief in Jonathan, Robert and 'Thoughtsleader' that Jakob is the aerobic GOAT of all time!!!!!!!!!!!!
He was touted to be such an aerobic monster that Robert even suspected Jakob could be the first athlete in the history of a championships race leading from start to finish and winning the 1500m in 3:26/27!!!!!!!
Winning is SO BASIC and expected of a caliber like Jakob!!!!!! But turns out he couldn't even hang on to the slow 27:27 pace on supershoes??????? Patrick Macau Musyoki hit 27:27 for 10k in 2009 Ras Al Khaimah half, so did Zersenay Tadesse and him the same at Udine World Half in 2007, all wearing crappy shoes, and all continued to finish in under 59 minutes!!!!!
What's so difficult about 27:27 huh???????????? Oh now I know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's due to a billion times more anthropogenic EMFs from 5G and 4G in 2024 than in 2007 and 2009 which only had 2G and 3G!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh ok, so I just found the answer again, it's anthropogenic RF again!!!!!!!
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It definitely shows that a 10k and half are really different for a guy whose best distances are probably 3k/5k.
I’ve never bought that Jakob was actually a “half marathon man”, rather the best 3k/5k talent ever and so good that he can still dominate 1500/10ks. Maybe the 800 is too short for him and the half too long for now
I still think he can break the HM one day with specific training and his supreme talent, but no, he's definitely not a HM guy despite his double threshold works. He's either a 3k/5k or a 5k/10k guy.
As for marathon, I don't think he will ever try one tbh except as a fun run.
Let's ground ourselves again.
This guy has just finished one of his most intense seasons. He focused on peaking for the Paris Olympics by doing mainly 1500 m-specific sessions leading up to the track season and trying to maintain that fitness until the DL final.
It was a "bad" idea for him to run in Copenhagen, given his total lack of specific HM preparation leading up to the race. However, he clearly trains for longer distances in the off-season and winter with his high-volume training model. The classic Ingebrigtsen model is suited for runners aiming to perform well at longer distances.
As they say, it's the hope that kills. Many on this forum clearly hoped he would make some magic happen, but truthfully, this result is entirely expected given the season he has had. But it doesn't say anything about whether or not he is built for the HM.
So Jakob's debut half was 1:03:13, which is slower than...
Seth O'Donnell's win at the burnley half last week in 1:02:05, winning by 2.5 minutes and having to pass runners for at least the last 5k, with a lead bike to show the course and several hairpin turns. Was by himself the whole way.
The women's world record, Letesenbet Gidey ran 1:02:52.
Dejen Gebresselassie (the Aussie guy who made the thread about qualifying for Australia in either the 1500 or 5000 for the last olympics when he is an obvious half mara/mara guy). Dejen has run 1:02:39.
Over 5 minutes slower than the mens world record.
Was 5 minutes behind the winner of the Copenhagen half, so much for wanting to win everything.
Slower than 33 runners at the Copenhagen half, of which I only know who one of them is, Jacob Kiplimo.
If he ran 2 63:13 half maras back to back, I think he would just scrape inside the world champs mara qualifier, I think it's 2:06:30 now.
I still think he can break the HM one day with specific training and his supreme talent, but no, he's definitely not a HM guy despite his double threshold works. He's either a 3k/5k or a 5k/10k guy.
As for marathon, I don't think he will ever try one tbh except as a fun run.
Let's ground ourselves again.
This guy has just finished one of his most intense seasons. He focused on peaking for the Paris Olympics by doing mainly 1500 m-specific sessions leading up to the track season and trying to maintain that fitness until the DL final.
It was a "bad" idea for him to run in Copenhagen, given his total lack of specific HM preparation leading up to the race. However, he clearly trains for longer distances in the off-season and winter with his high-volume training model. The classic Ingebrigtsen model is suited for runners aiming to perform well at longer distances.
As they say, it's the hope that kills. Many on this forum clearly hoped he would make some magic happen, but truthfully, this result is entirely expected given the season he has had. But it doesn't say anything about whether or not he is built for the HM.
Cut the crap sir, Jakob would only enter a race he THINKS he has a shot to mix it with the big boys Kiplimo and Sawe. He must have seen the start list and go "easy meat, I'll take these guys blindfolded, I'm a long distance guy and have 10 years of aerobic foundation since 15 years old and can hop onto a HM race any time and smoke them all at least, if not get the WR also."
Don't underestimate 10 years of aerobic foundation base alright sir????? Jakob didn't only start becoming more aerobic in training last winter or the winter before last. His mitochondrial cellular respiration is already pre-conditioned all his life for aerobic greatness, and 57:31 is way too slow for him given such pre-conditioning!!!!!!!!
Anyone who thinks this race means Jakob can't run any faster in the half is too stupid to be allowed to use the internet without supervision
I'd want to see Jakob going for a fast 5k time and running some 10ks on the track next season. Sign up for the ten next season or something like that and run a sub 27. Getting the Norwegian 10k record despite running such a poor race is still a decent consolation for future endeavors on the road.
Guys, this race does not show that Jakob's best distance is 3k/5k or 5k/10k. It's entirely possible that he's right that he's physiologically best suited for the HM. But he doesn't *train* for the HM! He's been training mainly for the 1500 and for nothing longer than 5000. So it should have been totally obvious, as many other people are now saying, that he'd bonk pretty soon after going with the leaders at world record HM pace. I think it's pretty impressive that he made it 10k, honestly. But it doesn't show anything at all about what his best distance is because we don't know what kind of HM time he'd run if he actually did HM training like people normally do before their debut. Why on earth he thought doing this race was a good idea, I of course don't know.
Anyone who thinks this race means Jakob can't run any faster in the half is too stupid to be allowed to use the internet without supervision
I'd want to see Jakob going for a fast 5k time and running some 10ks on the track next season. Sign up for the ten next season or something like that and run a sub 27. Getting the Norwegian 10k record despite running such a poor race is still a decent consolation for future endeavors on the road.
No one says he can't run any faster - your straw man, as usual. But it was far from the time that his fans thought he would achieve.
Anyone who thinks this race means Jakob can't run any faster in the half is too stupid to be allowed to use the internet without supervision
I'd want to see Jakob going for a fast 5k time and running some 10ks on the track next season. Sign up for the ten next season or something like that and run a sub 27. Getting the Norwegian 10k record despite running such a poor race is still a decent consolation for future endeavors on the road.
No one says he can't run any faster - your straw man, as usual. But it was far from the time that his fans thought he would achieve.
Fans are gonna think crazy things all the time like bolt could've ran 3:25 in the 15 or rudisha could've ran 1:59 in the thon or mondo could shot put 24m. I'm more curious as to what jingy thought he could run or what hm shape he thinks he's in. He stated he would go with them first mile and then make a decision about the rest of the race. My guess is he didn't really know where he is for the hm and has probably done mostly speed work the last few months
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