No. Nuguse demonstrated a TON of talent and I don't think he'd have been doping as an 18/19 year old (college freshmen). Hocker's jump and stagnation was a bit suspicious at 20 but he's been in the highest testing pool for a ton of time. Kerr has gradually progressed year to year
who cares, twelve years later, retests... you dont see it in other sports...
mickey mouse bronze medal (bronze is already a mickey mouse medal but anyway)
disagree-better late than never and I'm sure that Rowbury appreciates that she finally gets what she deserves; no the Mickey Mouse prize goes to the 2020 Lakers for the Orlando "bubble" finals
Mark my words, Jakob will be getting his 1500m Paris gold mailed to him in a decade or so.
If I had to bet on only one runner in the Paris 1500 final being dirty, it would be Jakob. His whole defiant demeanor and too good to be true results reminds me of Lance Armstrong.
As many dopers as they have now caught from the race, look at those who still haven't made the podium from 2012: Faith Kipyegon (4:08, now the greatest ever and world record holder with 3:49) and Genzebe Dibaba (4:11, former wr holder at 3:50 and indoor wr holder at 3k in 8:15) went out in the same prelim and everyone ahead of them qualified, including three who have now been disqualified. Dibaba always seemed to disappear at meets with heightened new testing but her performances elsewhere were prodigious and her coach was Jama Aden, when their hotel was raided by Spanish authorities who said they found large quantities of EPO and other drugs. Hellen Obiri, a future great, was 7th in the final, two behind Rowbury. Abebe Aregawi is still in there for silver, despite being banned at one point, I think for meldonium along with a bunch of Ethiopian and Eastern European runners, because her ban was subsequently rescinded. Jamal, the current gold medalist (and for what other sport would you use that adjective for an event that happened 12 years ago?), was an Ethiopian who switched allegiances in 2005 to run for Bahrain. The doping record for Bahraini athletes, especially those willing to sell out their own countries, is terrible. She is now called Olympic champ and two-time World Champ (prs of 3:56/8:28) but who knows? Even Rowbury was a Salazar case. Anyone who said that half that field was doping was probably underestimating.
Correction: Rowbury was initially sixth in the race and Obiri twelfth. As for Uceny, she looked incredibly stressed before the last lap began but she was completely tripped from behind by what looked like two people at the same time. Her only fault was in not picking up the pace to reduce congestion.
Belated congrats to a fine runner! Well deserved, couldn't happen to a nicer person. One of the dirtiest finals ever. Karma wins, eventually
Good thing Jamal is clean otherwise Shannon would be a silver medalist <note sarcasm>.
What do you think the actual chances were that Jamal was clean? 10%? 0%? I would seriously be more inclined to the latter.
To be fair, Maryam Yusuf Jamal and her husband fled Ethiopia in 2002 due to economic and political persecution. Ethiopia refused to allow her to represent the country in international competition. She was granted asylum in Switzerland, before applying for citizenship to represent the United States, France, Switzerland, Canada, and Turkey. After her citizenship requests were all denied, Bahrain allowed her to race for them as they were looking to increase their sporting presence.
While she represented Bahrain for the remainder of her career, she lived and trained in Lausanne and St. Moritz. Her decision to switch allegiance was one out of desperation, not for economic incentives. I don't think it's fair to group her with the other East African born athletes that represent gulf countries purely for monetary purposes.
There needs to be a combined multi-million dollar investment from every major sports federation into making better, faster, drug tests.
Make a $100 Million anti-dopping prize for the first startup to invent an automated, verifiable, consistent and sub-1hour test that costs only a few dollars per test.
Then make those tests available to every team in every professional organization (and high level like NCAA) and say if you don't send in monthly tests for your participants you cannot play.
Race Directors would love that no? They can deny all kinds of payouts before mailing checks, no clawbacks or tarnishing the race name needed.
Of course it's going to make TourDeFrance boring and roll back all records but still, worth it.
Also pretty infuriating that they didn't decide this before the Olympics.
They had a medal ceremony for Abeba Aregawi to move her up to bronze like two weeks ago at the Eiffel Tower. Seemed like an appropriate place to correct this. Now she is the silver medalist and where will they do this for Shannon? With a FedEx box?
There is an answer to your question. It was a documentary I saw last year, this happens regularly. Ill try to find it.
Serious question. How many in that final were tested? Do we DQ a doper and just give it to the first person not caught/tested?
They were all tested at the time and they all passed, but at the time they couldn't catch a lot of what they could catch later. Dopers then knew how to beat the tests at the time.
Plus, a lot were nailed due to intel and retested samples from outside that competition, and their ban covered the period including this Olympics. So in many cases it was a 2nd order ban.
Good for her. She deserves the medal. It is something that (barring a positive test result of Shannon, which is highly doubtful at this point) no one can ever take away from her. Better late than never.
