Not to put too fine a point on this, but it is not off topic at all. We discuss Olympic marathoners constantly on this board. Rebecca Cheptegei is an Olympic marathoner who is out indefinitely because of this insanity.
As far as “we should not interfere with Kenyan domestic violence policies”, who is we? There are Kenyans on this board, they’re part of the running community there, and presumably vote as well. There are absolutely things that can be done about this.
I am not going to “keep an open mind” about the merits of setting your girlfriend on fire. Nor do I think it can meaningfully be described as a “tradition” in Kenya or anywhere else.
It needs to be made clear that women face dv everywhere in the world. It’s not just “these places”. And everywhere in the world, they are dismissed and blamed.
in Colorado there’s a story of a man who raped his own daughters, and he currently roams free because he’s a cop, while his ex wife sits in jail for refusing to agree to therapy for him and their sons.
there was that horrible story of an abusive Utah man who abused and murdered his whole family about a year ago.
just recently Kara Welch a gymnast was killed by her boyfriend in Wisconsin.
“these places” isn’t a thing. It’s all places. This story is horrible. I hope justice is served
Yes, but it happens more often in "these places."
That doesn't make it OK in the US, but none of our Olympic athletes were burned by their partners.
I agree completely, and I don't understand the downvotes. The fact that domestic violence exists everywhere does not mean that it exists at the same levels. To suggest that violence against women is just as common in the US as it is in Uganda or Iran is absurd and contrary to the interests of women who live in cultures that condone violence at a macro scale. If social norms and culture do not influence rates of domestic violence or other forms of violence against women, why have any campaigns against such behavior? Changing cultural norms actually does decrease levels of violence against women, in part by changing values.
Women are not allowed to speak in Afghanistan. Women are regularly beaten and arrested for not wearing hijab in Iran. The attempt at cultural humility actually leads people to minimize the suffering of female oppression when taken to a logical extreme. "These places" are a thing; they're places where women are treated like second class citizens or property of men.
That doesn't make it OK in the US, but none of our Olympic athletes were burned by their partners.
I agree completely, and I don't understand the downvotes. The fact that domestic violence exists everywhere does not mean that it exists at the same levels. To suggest that violence against women is just as common in the US as it is in Uganda or Iran is absurd and contrary to the interests of women who live in cultures that condone violence at a macro scale. If social norms and culture do not influence rates of domestic violence or other forms of violence against women, why have any campaigns against such behavior? Changing cultural norms actually does decrease levels of violence against women, in part by changing values.
Women are not allowed to speak in Afghanistan. Women are regularly beaten and arrested for not wearing hijab in Iran. The attempt at cultural humility actually leads people to minimize the suffering of female oppression when taken to a logical extreme. "These places" are a thing; they're places where women are treated like second class citizens or property of men.
It's not the same at all. It unfortunately happens in America, but it's not only criminal, it's socially unacceptable and repugnant.
In some places, it's not criminal, and it's actually an acceptable cultural norm.
This is why excusing any practice that's socially or morally wrong by western standards because it's someone's "culture" should not fly at all.
That doesn't make it OK in the US, but none of our Olympic athletes were burned by their partners.
I agree completely, and I don't understand the downvotes. The fact that domestic violence exists everywhere does not mean that it exists at the same levels. To suggest that violence against women is just as common in the US as it is in Uganda or Iran is absurd and contrary to the interests of women who live in cultures that condone violence at a macro scale. If social norms and culture do not influence rates of domestic violence or other forms of violence against women, why have any campaigns against such behavior? Changing cultural norms actually does decrease levels of violence against women, in part by changing values.
Women are not allowed to speak in Afghanistan. Women are regularly beaten and arrested for not wearing hijab in Iran. The attempt at cultural humility actually leads people to minimize the suffering of female oppression when taken to a logical extreme. "These places" are a thing; they're places where women are treated like second class citizens or property of men.
You're right, but we should take note that in Uganda and other African nations these backwards attitudes like persecution of gays is directly being supported by evagelical Christianity exported from the USA. That's not the orgin of the problem, but we shouldn't get complacent that "it can't happen here". Afghanistan is great example of a once somewhat progressive nation that slid backwards.
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