Isn't it paced? I think Hocker had a 3:26 in him in Paris, but idk if he has that in him anymore. Same with Kerr, they typically run their best in championships. Jakob just ran 7:17 though, and I like that kinda fitness in a paced 1500m.
Hocker had a pacer for 1400 meters and had the race of his life. And you believe he had 3:26 in him in Paris?
The reason for why 3 people who have never ran 3:28 ran 3:27 in Paris is because they were getting paced for 1400 meters, and Jakob blew up in the end because he went out way too fast in the first half. Jakob is still the favorite for every race he enters.
In the OG, Jakob went above threshold in the first quarter (which he didn't feel at once due to the adrenaline; yea, read up on the effects of it) and this came back to bite him at the end, i.e., he couldn't finish well enough.
The bottom line is that Jakob is still the favourite for every 1500m he enters - the next guys can only win if he messes up or is not healthy.
Jakob has been reported sick… He tried to have a little workout yesterday. He got sick right after the 3000m. It will be interesting to se if he starts or not. I geuss that a 7.17 runner can run sub 3.29, after a week og being sick.
The lingering impact of last year's 2-mile world record seemed to have affected Jakob's performance in his subsequent 1500m race.
Falling ill after the 3,000m world record is, unfortunately, an expectation as he's run faster than history's best and isn't a robot. Considering his current form (in/coming off illness), I believe he's capable of achieving a 3:29 in Zurich.
The reason for why 3 people who have never ran 3:28 ran 3:27 in Paris is because they were getting paced for 1400 meters, and Jakob blew up in the end because he went out way too fast in the first half. Jakob is still the favorite for every race he enters.
I’m so sick of this narrative. It doesn’t make Jakob the best runner by being a rabbit for everyone else. Racing is about pacing yourself and not blowing up - yes someone can go in front of you and you can draft a bit or you can front lead. But you need to do what works for you. Everyone else knew what to do in that Olympic final and Jakob messed up.
The other athletes also work very hard to peak for the Olympics. Yet Jakob is praised for coming 4th in the Olympics but ooh look he’s holding his peak. Why prioritise peaking for months for DL races over the Olympics which comes round once every four years?
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The reason for why 3 people who have never ran 3:28 ran 3:27 in Paris is because they were getting paced for 1400 meters, and Jakob blew up in the end because he went out way too fast in the first half. Jakob is still the favorite for every race he enters.
I’m so sick of this narrative. It doesn’t make Jakob the best runner by being a rabbit for everyone else. Racing is about pacing yourself and not blowing up - yes someone can go in front of you and you can draft a bit or you can front lead. But you need to do what works for you. Everyone else knew what to do in that Olympic final and Jakob messed up.
The other athletes also work very hard to peak for the Olympics. Yet Jakob is praised for coming 4th in the Olympics but ooh look he’s holding his peak. Why prioritise peaking for months for DL races over the Olympics which comes round once every four years?
Being the best means performing around the year, every year, not showing up for one race and not being able to sustain those performances. Is Wightman still a better runner than Nuguse because he has the global gold and Nuguse doesn't? And just because you're the best doesn't mean you're going to win every race. On top of that, Jakob is the fastest currently active runner in the world.
Hocker needs to prove that the Olympics wasn't a fluke before he can be crowned as the best. We saw what happened when they both benefitted from pacers in Lausanne, Jakob finishes several seconds ahead of Hocker despite Hocker running his second fastest 1500 ever.
Forget about the Hockerdopes, dude weaned off the PEDs so what do you expect????? Dude reverts back to Prefontaine mile shape he was in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Running 3:48 galaxies away from KERR's 3:45!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hockerdope needs to know his place and stop taking PEDs to make up deficits in talent!!!!!!!!
I’m so sick of this narrative. It doesn’t make Jakob the best runner by being a rabbit for everyone else. Racing is about pacing yourself and not blowing up - yes someone can go in front of you and you can draft a bit or you can front lead. But you need to do what works for you. Everyone else knew what to do in that Olympic final and Jakob messed up.
The other athletes also work very hard to peak for the Olympics. Yet Jakob is praised for coming 4th in the Olympics but ooh look he’s holding his peak. Why prioritise peaking for months for DL races over the Olympics which comes round once every four years?
Being the best means performing around the year, every year, not showing up for one race and not being able to sustain those performances. Is Wightman still a better runner than Nuguse because he has the global gold and Nuguse doesn't? And just because you're the best doesn't mean you're going to win every race. On top of that, Jakob is the fastest currently active runner in the world.
Hocker needs to prove that the Olympics wasn't a fluke before he can be crowned as the best. We saw what happened when they both benefitted from pacers in Lausanne, Jakob finishes several seconds ahead of Hocker despite Hocker running his second fastest 1500 ever.
You’re discounting the importance of the Olympics and Hocker’s win was not a fluke. In the future, and just like with Centro, people will remember his Olympic win, and not who won DL races, afterwards.
tbh, I don't think it's a stretch to think Kerr and Nuguse could run 3:27. Nuguse ran a 3:43 last year, while Kerr also improved quite a bit this year and he already ran a low 3:29 with a 53 last year. Hocker though, was really a surprise, I thought he "only" was in 3:28 shape under the right circumstances.
You might be right that Kerr and Nuguse could run 3:27...
Wake the heck up sir LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How can you be legitimately surprised by Hocker's performances in Paris yet manage to avoid his doping antics you feeling me sir??????????
You jolly be properly surprised from today onwards alright!!!!!!!!!! Don't give us that half-baked surprise where you act like an innocent babe and completely miss his doping!!!!!!!!
I understand not every surprising thing is a doping thing, but you need to analyze correctly that for Hocker it's doping!!!!
If it was that obvious to you that 3 runners who have never ran 3:28 would all run 3:27 in the same race then I'm sure you could've made a lot of money betting on that outcome.
Indeed it was obvious Jakob was going to lose. TBH though, I wouldn’t have predicted Jakob would be out of the medals. Honestly, I thought it would be Kerr again, but if not Kerr, then Hocker (after that US Olympic trials performance where it was clear he had more in the tank). Can’t say I’m surprised they both beat him. But I am a bit surprised Neguse beat him.
I actually thought Jakob would lose in Budapest (though wasn’t sure at the time who would do it). After the “I am the pacesetter” thing the writing was on the wall.
He’ll lose again next year in Tokyo if he stays predictable with the whole “pacesetter” thing…. “Hey guys, I’m going to go out in a steady 3:28, or maybe 3:27 and I don’t have a finishing kick - see if you can beat me!” I’d put my money on the field.
If he changes things up - both in terms of strategy and training - i.e., if he does a bit more ‘intense race-specific’ work (the type of work he says he never does) and develops a slightly better kick - then he gives himself a better chance. But he has to do it in an unpredictable way.
I know I come across as anti-Jakob tut I’m honestly rooting for him to do exactly that!
BEST POST OF THE YEAR 2024, that's correct sir!!!!!!!
Yes Jakob can never win another 1500m world or olympic title ever again!!!!!!
He has used up all his tries, 4 in total, what else can he do???????? The younger studs are coming up and fast and will be stronger and faster in a sit and kick type of race, not to mention Josh KERR still hanging around a while longer!!!!
The reason for why 3 people who have never ran 3:28 ran 3:27 in Paris is because they were getting paced for 1400 meters, and Jakob blew up in the end because he went out way too fast in the first half. Jakob is still the favorite for every race he enters.
I’m so sick of this narrative. It doesn’t make Jakob the best runner by being a rabbit for everyone else. Racing is about pacing yourself and not blowing up - yes someone can go in front of you and you can draft a bit or you can front lead. But you need to do what works for you. Everyone else knew what to do in that Olympic final and Jakob messed up.
The other athletes also work very hard to peak for the Olympics. Yet Jakob is praised for coming 4th in the Olympics but ooh look he’s holding his peak. Why prioritise peaking for months for DL races over the Olympics which comes round once every four years?
We also have to factor in that Nuguse, Hocker and Kessler all had to do a mini-peak for USAs. Obviously they were right to not disrespect their competition as they put 3 in the top 5 in the world at Paris, and the 4th runner ran 3:31 with a good close at Trials.
Jakob deserves favorite status in every paced 1500m race, and every unpaced 5,000. AS long as he is so stubborn in his championship 1500m tactic, he is vulnerable to defeat. Tim was the best in 2018-20 as well in paced races, but lost every time in a championship race to Manangoi until his whereabouts ban. It is not an easy way to win from the front pushing close to the whole way.
I still remember Jakob running that 3:43 and 7:23 back to back late last season and that was insane and he had to kick hard to win both races! And now he ran the 7:17 just a week ago. Crazy! It's like he is getting faster each week. Remember last year he was beat in the world champs 1500m but two weeks later ran that crazy fast world record 2,000 and that set things up for that mile/3k double. He's a machine!
Look sir, you sound like you are about to have an affected orgasm alright!!!!! Look, there is nothing prematurely exciting or affected about running 3:43 and 7:23 and now 7:17. You should learn to control your affected orgasm and not allow it to run ahead of you!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't be taken by surprise by any emotion of 3:43, 7:23 and 7:17 you feeling me sir???? Come to expect it especially with supershoes, wavelights, track surfaces and lots of PEDs!!!!!
Kerr will easily win. He is aware of Hole Cocker now, and won't let him get ahead on the finishing straight. Jakob is just the next boy.
CORRECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
KERR is the only macho-speaking and macho-behaving bass-sounding man and athlete in the 1500m field of runners who possesses the mental ability to will his body and legs to the extent that he demands it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now that he knows Hocker's dope got a jump on him in Paris, if Hocker is on the same hope in Zurich Hocker might still lose to KERR because the macho-acting and speaking KERR has given his mental radar a set of instructions to outrun Hocker come what may in Zurich, dope or no dope, you feeling me sir????????????????? KERR has that ability to use his mind to overturn even unfair doping deficits!!!!!!!!!!!
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