Is there a scenario where a 7:17 guy cannot win a 10K championship race?

To your thread title, I think if the athlete ran a 1:32 800 they would be infinitely better at the shorter distances and might lose a fast 10k championship.

Historical context. I'm not comparing different eras but bringing up that 3000 meter world record holders don't necessarily win whenever they move up.

I'm not disparaging Jakob and as a huge fan of Henry Rono I certainly believe that a 3000 meter stud could become great in the steeplechase, 5000m and 10,000. But until he gives the 10k a shot I'm not jumping on the Jakob is the greatest 10k runner train.

Oh yeah, He was also too big to ever beat the fast finishing Etiophians in the 5000m..

Of course he would destroy the current 10000m field. And they won´t be able to run away from him. He probably could get the WR now if he went for it.

He has mainly done aerobic long distance training since he was 8 years old.

He doesn´t need to maintain his 7:17 speed to break the 10000m WR.

He ran 58.34 per lap in his 3000m WR. He "only" needs to run high 62 per lap to break the 10000m WR.

Chalk flew up!

And I’m sure you know he ran with what a test afterwards showed was a rhino virus that made him bleed from his nose and “blow up” pretty early in the race… A race that was won in a far slower time than his winning time the year before in the same course.

No he wouldnt,and no he couldnt. If he had ran in the olympic 10'000 he'd have been lapped.He would not beat joshua cheptagai. Not even close.

I watch European XC championships every year, and he does not look bothered by his "extra weight".
I think he would destroy the field in the exact same way than in the 5000. Seems capable to close in 54''XX whatever the pace is

Of course you didn't get it, Jakob has run milion 10k in training. He will easily win any 10000m race, much easier then 5000m. You'll see, don't worry

Until he races 10k this is all air.

His top desire at the Olympics or World Championships is to win the 1500m, and he usually loses. So of course he could lose the 10000m. Just as Aouita could have lost against 27:10 runners. Jakob could lose against 26:25 runners. Now would he? That is a different question, and everyone is just speculating.

There are a lot of scenarios, If his name isn't Jakob. Jakob can win, and he will win when it's time for the 10000m. It's just not time yet.

Not many realistic scenarios other than falling or being sick or injured, maybe if it came down to the last 400 off a slow pace, though the pace might have to be quite slow, and I don't know how elite 10k runners who are solely 10k runners are like at kicking the last 400 fast, though I'm sure some of them would be better at Jakob.

Areagawi was closing like a freight train, he completely mistimed his kick. He spotted Chep a huge amount of distance on the last lap as well. He probably would have won gold if he had run with better tactics. It’s hard to think that even in a fast 10k that Ingebrigtsen wouldn’t have won

Jakob will probably grab a few 10000m global golds in ~5 years as he is transitioning to running 1:59 marathons routinely

I agree. -Looking forward to his first meet with the real guys (also with some worries I must admit)…

He raced 10k 3x already, and won all 3.

1x road.

2x Euro XC

He beat 2x at the XC Euros Jimmy Gressier who's a 26:58 runner and placed 13th at these Olympics.

And he did it really easily, felt like he was running an easy tempo run.

Hicham ran 36:00 :-)

worldathletics.org

El Guerrouj: just for the love of the sport | NEWS | World Athletics

Double Olympic champion Hicham El Guerrouj completed a 10km road race on the Promenade des Anglais in Nice, South of France yesterday.

Link:worldathletics.org/news/news/el-guerro...

Daniel Komen has a 27:38.32 PB.

A championship race if its a slow start fast finish type he might have a change.
But a fast race I wouldn't bet my horse on it.