Ingrebritsen sounds like he'll never be happy

The 1500 was a blip. A mistake in tactics. He will learn and comeback even stronger. He’s an absolute monster. He will go down as one of the greats b4 he retires. And he has a way to go yet. He will break the 1500 metre world record at some stage and pick up Olympic Gold(s) and World Gold(s) at 1500. He will also continue to dominate the 5000. Maybe even trying for the mile record and upping his distance to 10000m when the time is right.

Worldly achievements won't bring happiness the only true Joy is in Jesus Christ worldly achievements are just icing on top of the cake if you already have Jesus

I’m not insinuating that you are a malign narcissist or psychopath or something like that. Not at all -if I did that I would be the same that I claim you are : superficial. And I’m not even claiming that you are superficial as a person -the vibes that I got were that you were superficial in that actual post.

I’m pretty sure Jakob isn’t (malign) narcissistic at all. -We are all narcissistic to some degree, and should also be so to have a sound self and ego and connection with life. And Jakob’s ego seems very well balanced and sound, and not inflated at all, IMO. -I think he has acted extremely intelligent and mature in the quarrel with Kerr, and also with Nordås if the information we have is representative.

You are not the only one that think Jakob is narcissistic. -A lot of posters here think being a celebrity, having high ambitions, outspokenness about dreams / goals and standing one’s ground / being in a conflict are the same as (at least a little) narcissism, but it isn’t. Malign narcissism (and that’s what we are talking about here of course, because all narcissism that affects other people negatively is malign, and you stressed how you feel he disrespects others) is sometimes relevant and important to warn the public about, especially when people with power and influence got this disorder. But then one must know for sure how to judge and analyse!

Your problem here, IMO, is that you are obviously very wrong. Why? -Well, firstly you may or may not have proper insight in NPD and psychology in general. Hard for me to know, but even if you have insight the whole field of personality disorder are highly debated, so you might view this in a way that I disagree in, professionally.

But here comes what I am certain of: Your narrative about Jakob’s behaviour and mind set is very wrong and unfair. -He doesn’t disrespect other athletes, and he doesn’t talk narcissistic or show inflated and sickly covered uncertainty. An example here is his instagram post after losing in the OG 1500m. And another is the way he has quarrelled with Kerr: The latter started the dispute by calling Jakob “insecure” after his waving to the crowd in WC 2023 semis. I doubt Jakob knew this when he called Kerr “Just the next guy” when he was asked if he thought on getting even in a later race, because the saying wasn’t directed to Kerr as a person (he could have said this to every athlete). Jakob’s point clearly is that he is concerned about becoming the best version of himself, and not about his competitors. Clearly no disrespect here. And Jakob later explained explicitly that the saying meant “the next in line”, and not “a nobody” -something all context showed that he didn’t mean.

Kerr got hurt, because he meant he was the best in the world. And that says a lot. And he immediately got personal by characterising Jakob’s ego, and ended up with this saying: “I don’t like him” whereas Jakob has been very reluctant and slow to criticise Kerr’s personality. And this doesn’t fit NPD. Neither that Jakob is very self critical, which he clearly is. And you are very wrong when you claim that he always presents excuses when he loses -he presents explanations when it’s natural. But most of his losses he reacts to like most athletes -very good and balanced and without much fuss.

Lastly: I don’t think you know Jakob well enough to characterise him. -He is not the one dimensional fanatic (when it comes to running and winning) that you seem to think. In a pod cast (early 2021 I think) he said that he planned to retire early if he won a global championship or two, because he wouldn’t end up like his brothers -all their suffering from multiple injuries- if he kept it going to near 30 years old. And because there are other things in life than running - he said. Well, he was talked away from this mind set by people who stressed how much his running means to others. But not very narcissistic this, if you ask me.

Way out of his reach?? What the hell have you been watching for the last year?!?!

I’m not really a Jakob fan (in fact, I was rooting for him to lose after the whole ‘I am the pace setter’ thing…)

But I do believe you’re wrong about the 5000m thing. I think a 7:54 2-miler can run sub 12:35 and I predict he will do so in the next 12 to 24 months. And I think he can continue to dominate global championship finals for the next four-year cycle and rack up more 5000m gold medals than anyone in history. And I do think he will be the 5000m GOAT when all is said and done.

I agree though… he’s not the 1500/mile GOAT and never will be.

I’m fairly certain “nothing else matters!” meant to say 5000 WR, instead. They were discussing that topic, and he must have had a brainfart.

The kid is only 23. Why don't we wait until he peaks before judging his legacy.

Watch the post 5K presser. He was asked if he got over the 1500 loss a day or two later and he gave this answer. It makes sense in context.

And maybe he will never be satisfied, part of what makes him great.

He's just Norwegian, they're all like this. Norwegians give off a type of personality that most Americans might perceive as very mildly autistic, but they're not, that's literally just how they are.

There are those people who truly reach for greatness in their field. Jacob is one of those people. Most people do not think this way. For them comfort is more important than accomplishment.

Yes 23!!! years old and already has two golds in two different Olympics. Jakob is just getting started and wants to be the goat. Therefore, his mindset is exactly what it should be. He will break the 1500 and 5k world records in the next two years. At LA28 he will win the 5k and may lose again in the tactical 1500. I mean my God Centro won the 1500 in 3:50. However, if he does pull off two world records and two golds in LA he will be the undisputed goat of distance track at the age of 27!!! Holy crap!!!

Also he has a wife and kid now. He needs to be angry at his job and happy with them. He can’t lose that fire or he quickly could turn into a fat coach potato posting on Letsrun about the good ole days like most of the losers on this site.

His 5K press conference demonstrates how well he knows the sport and his competitors. As far as being happy - contentment lends itself to mediocrity at that level. Those hauntings and desire for more is what will fuel his greatness to come.
- Just another Jakob fanboy

here is the story

jakpb has to choose between 1500 and 5k GOAT

he can still be 1500 GOAT

but look.

how did these guys beat him in championships? by adapting their training.

thats the difference. jakob needs to be humble and start working on these skills. but it means he has to focus on skills antithetical to 5k GOAT

I predict Jakob will get both the 1500 and the mile WRs with the next 14 months.

He's 23 and his PR is 0.73 seconds slower than the world record. It's right at his fingertips, not "way out of reach."

interesting take, though i've never really thought of him on npd spectrum (in the way i think Kerr clearly is). I don't think someone on that spectrum makes the statement he did immediately on the night of his loss. maybe though, I suppose it's a question of degree.

great take though