You could say that then about most of the posters here. However 70 years on this planet says you are wrong. There's been quite a lot happen in that span.
If she finishes 3rd we would know she is as doped as much as the Kenyans and Ethiopians.
It’s unlikely she’ll win a bronze in any scenario. In the 10000m, she would need to be capable of running 2X her current 5000m PR, minus another 10 seconds.
Cold hard facts.
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Parker completed one of the best NCAA seasons of any female or male athlete. Making it to the Olympics was no small accomplishment. She performed well given her long season and the pressure of running in her first international competition. Her 11th place time of 30:59.28 was faster than all three US women from the Tokyo Olympics. She was closer to the winning time than all the women from Toyo Olympics. Given her age, ability to perform well in hot weather conditions, under developed aerobic engine, and untapped speed potential, point to a bright future. To put limits on her at this early stage of her professional athletic career has more to do with one's leaning toward negativity and lack of ability to see promise in people. Expect Great Things!!! is not hyperbole, but anticipation for her to reach her potential as a runner and as a fan the excitement of many years to watch her progress.
Parker completed one of the best NCAA seasons of any female or male athlete. Making it to the Olympics was no small accomplishment. She performed well given her long season and the pressure of running in her first international competition. Her 11th place time of 30:59.28 was faster than all three US women from the Tokyo Olympics. She was closer to the winning time than all the women from Toyo Olympics. Given her age, ability to perform well in hot weather conditions, under developed aerobic engine, and untapped speed potential, point to a bright future. To put limits on her at this early stage of her professional athletic career has more to do with one's leaning toward negativity and lack of ability to see promise in people. Expect Great Things!!! is not hyperbole, but anticipation for her to reach her potential as a runner and as a fan the excitement of many years to watch her progress.
Tokyo 2020
10th Emily Sisson 31:09.58
12th Karissa Schweizer 31:19.96
13th Alicia Monson 31:21.36
Paris 2024
8th Weini Kelati 30.49.98
9th Karissa Schweizer 30.51.99
11th Parker Valby 30.59.28
I'm not touting Rooks but he accomplished something on the Olympic stage for which Valby showed no comparison. She doesn't have E African endurance and nor does she have their finishing speed so she will be never get near the medals on the track. She will never medal in the marathon either on an arc trainer. She is a high national level in the US but international honours look beyond her.
Parker completed one of the best NCAA seasons of any female or male athlete. Making it to the Olympics was no small accomplishment. She performed well given her long season and the pressure of running in her first international competition. Her 11th place time of 30:59.28 was faster than all three US women from the Tokyo Olympics. She was closer to the winning time than all the women from Toyo Olympics. Given her age, ability to perform well in hot weather conditions, under developed aerobic engine, and untapped speed potential, point to a bright future. To put limits on her at this early stage of her professional athletic career has more to do with one's leaning toward negativity and lack of ability to see promise in people. Expect Great Things!!! is not hyperbole, but anticipation for her to reach her potential as a runner and as a fan the excitement of many years to watch her progress.
Tokyo 2020
10th Emily Sisson 31:09.58
12th Karissa Schweizer 31:19.96
13th Alicia Monson 31:21.36
Paris 2024
8th Weini Kelati 30.49.98
9th Karissa Schweizer 30.51.99
11th Parker Valby 30.59.28
All that shows is how weak US women are in the event. Not even in the picture for a medal.
well nobody really expected valby to medal. she has had such a phenomenal season, esp considering how long it is. to have this unconventional form of training, while having such a long and ardous season, is impressive of her, and she beat over 10 other world class runners. she has and will continue to progress well. just a little bit of work and she'll be in those honours.
well nobody really expected valby to medal. she has had such a phenomenal season, esp considering how long it is. to have this unconventional form of training, while having such a long and ardous season, is impressive of her, and she beat over 10 other world class runners. she has and will continue to progress well. just a little bit of work and she'll be in those honours.
Maybe you never expected her to medal but the euphoria from some of her fans seem to acknowledge no limits.
She's currently two minutes slower than the world record for the 10k. She would need to be capable of at least a minute-30 faster than her current best to be anywhere near a medal over that distance. I can't see it - on cross-training. Nor does she have a kick that would get her over the line against runners of that level. If a runner like Battocletti were anywhere near her it would be goodnight. Similarly, there isn't a marathon medallist who gets by on 30mpw and an arc trainer. She has done well to get where she has. Much higher is a very big ask.
Maybe you never expected her to medal but the euphoria from some of her fans seem to acknowledge no limits.
She's currently two minutes slower than the world record for the 10k. She would need to be capable of at least a minute-30 faster than her current best to be anywhere near a medal over that distance. I can't see it - on cross-training. Nor does she have a kick that would get her over the line against runners of that level. If a runner like Battocletti were anywhere near her it would be goodnight. Similarly, there isn't a marathon medallist who gets by on 30mpw and an arc trainer. She has done well to get where she has. Much higher is a very big ask.
She may read this post and quit running to take up archery.
No one here ever expected her to medal.
In fact very few even thought she would make the team...
...but then injuries and other's poor performances opened the door and she made it in 2 events!
The slow Olympic 10000 allowed her to still be in the race for 23 Laps. She has a great experience and demonstrated that she is very reliable at the 31 min level.
She now has 4 years to improve. You won't see a marathon before '28, but she may give a road 10miler, or a half marathon a try. Current training would still work for those distances.
Maybe you never expected her to medal but the euphoria from some of her fans seem to acknowledge no limits.
She's currently two minutes slower than the world record for the 10k. She would need to be capable of at least a minute-30 faster than her current best to be anywhere near a medal over that distance. I can't see it - on cross-training. Nor does she have a kick that would get her over the line against runners of that level. If a runner like Battocletti were anywhere near her it would be goodnight. Similarly, there isn't a marathon medallist who gets by on 30mpw and an arc trainer. She has done well to get where she has. Much higher is a very big ask.
She may read this post and quit running to take up archery.
No one here ever expected her to medal.
In fact very few even thought she would make the team...
...but then injuries and other's poor performances opened the door and she made it in 2 events!
The slow Olympic 10000 allowed her to still be in the race for 23 Laps. She has a great experience and demonstrated that she is very reliable at the 31 min level.
She now has 4 years to improve. You won't see a marathon before '28, but she may give a road 10miler, or a half marathon a try. Current training would still work for those distances.
Excited to see how she does with pro focus.
That blowhard says some of the stupidest things on the forum.
Parker completed one of the best NCAA seasons of any female or male athlete. Making it to the Olympics was no small accomplishment. She performed well given her long season and the pressure of running in her first international competition. Her 11th place time of 30:59.28 was faster than all three US women from the Tokyo Olympics. She was closer to the winning time than all the women from Toyo Olympics. Given her age, ability to perform well in hot weather conditions, under developed aerobic engine, and untapped speed potential, point to a bright future. To put limits on her at this early stage of her professional athletic career has more to do with one's leaning toward negativity and lack of ability to see promise in people. Expect Great Things!!! is not hyperbole, but anticipation for her to reach her potential as a runner and as a fan the excitement of many years to watch her progress.
Tokyo 2020
10th Emily Sisson 31:09.58
12th Karissa Schweizer 31:19.96
13th Alicia Monson 31:21.36
Paris 2024
8th Weini Kelati 30.49.98
9th Karissa Schweizer 30.51.99
11th Parker Valby 30.59.28
I'm not touting Rooks but he accomplished something on the Olympic stage for which Valby showed no comparison. She doesn't have E African endurance and nor does she have their finishing speed so she will be never get near the medals on the track. She will never medal in the marathon either on an arc trainer. She is a high national level in the US but international honours look beyond her.
In what world does it make logical sense to compare a 21 year old to a 24 year old?
I don’t disagree with what you are saying regarding Valby’s track potential; there are really only 5 women world-wide right now who can medal at her distances. (6 if you include Battocletti/she tests clean)
She may read this post and quit running to take up archery.
No one here ever expected her to medal.
In fact very few even thought she would make the team...
...but then injuries and other's poor performances opened the door and she made it in 2 events!
The slow Olympic 10000 allowed her to still be in the race for 23 Laps. She has a great experience and demonstrated that she is very reliable at the 31 min level.
She now has 4 years to improve. You won't see a marathon before '28, but she may give a road 10miler, or a half marathon a try. Current training would still work for those distances.
Excited to see how she does with pro focus.
That blowhard says some of the stupidest things on the forum.
11th, with no kick. So explain how she's going to improve a minute and a half over 10k on an arc trainer. Or beat the best E Africans in a marathon.
I'm not touting Rooks but he accomplished something on the Olympic stage for which Valby showed no comparison. She doesn't have E African endurance and nor does she have their finishing speed so she will be never get near the medals on the track. She will never medal in the marathon either on an arc trainer. She is a high national level in the US but international honours look beyond her.
In what world does it make logical sense to compare a 21 year old to a 24 year old?
I don’t disagree with what you are saying regarding Valby’s track potential; there are really only 5 women world-wide right now who can medal at her distances. (6 if you include Battocletti/she tests clean)
But your comparison makes no sense.
Ryun was a world record holder at 19; Elliott at 20; Snell an Olympic champion at 22. She is nearly 22 and hasn't just taken up the sport. There is no reason to suggest she will be an order of magnitude faster in another 2 years. Unless she does a Hull or a Bell at 29 and 30 (and she has none of their speed).
In what world does it make logical sense to compare a 21 year old to a 24 year old?
I don’t disagree with what you are saying regarding Valby’s track potential; there are really only 5 women world-wide right now who can medal at her distances. (6 if you include Battocletti/she tests clean)
But your comparison makes no sense.
Ryun was a world record holder at 19; Elliott at 20; Snell an Olympic champion at 22. She is nearly 22 and hasn't just taken up the sport. There is no reason to suggest she will be an order of magnitude faster in another 2 years. Unless she does a Hull or a Bell at 29 and 30 (and she has none of their speed).
You really are invested in putting a 21 year old girl down. What a sad old man you are.
In what world does it make logical sense to compare a 21 year old to a 24 year old?
I don’t disagree with what you are saying regarding Valby’s track potential; there are really only 5 women world-wide right now who can medal at her distances. (6 if you include Battocletti/she tests clean)
But your comparison makes no sense.
Ryun was a world record holder at 19; Elliott at 20; Snell an Olympic champion at 22. She is nearly 22 and hasn't just taken up the sport. There is no reason to suggest she will be an order of magnitude faster in another 2 years. Unless she does a Hull or a Bell at 29 and 30 (and she has none of their speed).
Got it. You're comparing her to an era of racing that was 60 years ago, even before East Africans burst onto the scene. Back when JFK was still alive and color tvs had just been invented.
I was under the impression you were trying to make a rational argument. Nevermind.
I’m not saying that Valby would contend for the title but if cross country becomes a thing in the Winter Olympics, as is being proposed by Seb Cole, I could see her doing really well. We’re yet to see her run the longer international XC distance but her 10k performances show that she would more than likely adapt.
Along with what I stated above I would also like to see Valby on the US team for the world XC championships in Tallahassee in 2026. I would like to see Tuohy on the team as well.
Ryun was a world record holder at 19; Elliott at 20; Snell an Olympic champion at 22. She is nearly 22 and hasn't just taken up the sport. There is no reason to suggest she will be an order of magnitude faster in another 2 years. Unless she does a Hull or a Bell at 29 and 30 (and she has none of their speed).
You really are invested in putting a 21 year old girl down. What a sad old man you are.
The only thing I am "invested in" is exposing the nonsense spouted by her fans here. It isn't difficult. It has no grounding in reality.
The claim was made that at 21 she will still be far from her best and so I pointed out that many great champions were setting world records and winning Olympic titles at the same age or younger. She won't necessarily get better. I don't actually care what she does but injecting a dose of reality into the discussion in which it is largely absent is always worth doing.
Ryun was a world record holder at 19; Elliott at 20; Snell an Olympic champion at 22. She is nearly 22 and hasn't just taken up the sport. There is no reason to suggest she will be an order of magnitude faster in another 2 years. Unless she does a Hull or a Bell at 29 and 30 (and she has none of their speed).
Got it. You're comparing her to an era of racing that was 60 years ago, even before East Africans burst onto the scene. Back when JFK was still alive and color tvs had just been invented.
I was under the impression you were trying to make a rational argument. Nevermind.
Quincy Wilson is 16 and running world class times. We have seen that with quite a few runners today, who are achieving an international standard in their teens. That careers are longer than they once were doesn't mean that athletes don't peak now till their thirties. Some do - but then the sport is virtually universally doped and that is how it is done. We know that because it is a worse doping offender than cycling.