Fordham Track coach killed in murder suicide

13 = 52

These last two messages absolutely feel like Russian trolls just arguing back and forth with each other to sow discord.

It's really, really pathetic. Both that they'd waste their time doing it, and that the idiot Brojos have no interest in stopping it.

No surprise...murderer was from Chicago. What a sh!thole.

You know that an argument is silly when it starts off by calling something 'absurd' and then goes on to talk about false dichotomies like those between US political parties and 'developed' vs 'undeveloped' countries.

The GOP is almost as corrupt as the other ones... The only correct path is a rejection of both and an understanding that they are the same for all intents and purposes.
There is no such thing as a 'developed nation'. That's a term used to glorify the capture of a people by technocratic corporate stationary bandits -- framing such developments as 'progress' when there is no surer path to a highly-undesirable technocratic feudalism.

The main important metric is whether or not widespread ownership of weapons mitigates a larger risk to life and limb. What would that larger risk look like? It could look like gulags, quarantine camps, being forced to take virtually untested pharmaceutical products, that themselves kill untold thousands and cripple many more. Ask the disarmed residents of 'developed' country Australia how that went. Ask the disarmed residents of China how that went -- and how it has been going for those in the western regions... Or perhaps China isn't considered 'developed?' Who knows? Who cares?

Even if your head is in the sand about the various ways governments (and chiefly among them the US government) don't exist for the safety and service of their residents, it cannot be disputed that most of the killing in the world during the last couple of centuries was done by governments, for profit (and recently mainly for crony government profits, and not by angry grandmothers with nothing to loose, petty criminals, or jealous lovers.

Two of my grandparents were trucked to a gulag by "their" government, another was sent to live in an orphanage abroad for fear that "his" government would capture and kill him. You'd call the conditions under which these things happened 'developed.' And yet they were defenseless. The mercenary communists and jackboots that persecuted them did not fear for their lives when round them up. They were solidly outgunned. The American people are not outgunned at the present time, though rapid advancements in robots stand to disturb that balance and people will have to invest in more technologically sophisticated weaponry to keep some semblance of a power balance with the government in the years ahead.

I don't know from where the ahistorical impression of government as protector arises. Perhaps you were raised in a government school, and trained by government employees?

Get armed, get trained, and get ready. The more folks who are ready, the less chance of anyone needing to use the training in a downside scenario.

Hispanic means you speak Spanish. It is neither an ethnicity nor a race. But there are folks trying to get people to identify along those lines in a sort of 'divide and conquer' scheme.

All people are inherently violent. Are some colors more violent than others? Perhaps. But hard to study. Too many variables.

Family virtues are in a bad state.

I hope something inspires them again.

Marriage is actually the best predictor for crime.

"Why can't we still find a way to make everything about the Russians"

Feels like a James Bond writer's room in the mid 1990s.

Funny when they then came up with the movie where the corporate media mogul was manipulating governments in a sort of "Nightcrawler" way. Art imitates life.

The biggest danger Americans face is their own government. Has been that way for over a century. Hard to know if The Russians ever were a serious threat, or if the threat was overstated as a way to justify cronyism and control, as it is today.

This is happening. That's why Apple News is feeding me stories like "The Dark Side of The Trad Wife Movement".

No, it is an ethnicity.

I speak Spanish and am of Irish, German, Scot, and Swedish ancestry.

I am not Hispanic.

Goes the other way, too.

Try going to Miami and telling someone who is white by any objective standard and who speaks Spanish that they aren't Hispanic when their ancestors came from Cuba, Colombia, or even Spain.

Hispanic as a "race" is a relatively recent tool of cultural Marxism.

All red herrings being discussed as opposed to the real truth. That the USA has a mental illness epidemic and it is downstream of the Greed is Good/hyper competitive society, where there are only 2 kinds of people Winners and Losers.

I've been watching loads of police camera footage. Always mental illness involved. Sometimes off the cops. As we saw with the recent robocop killer of a troubled woman. We already know all of his fundamental views of the world, including black people and people with little money. THE PTB like to rule like this encouraging the police to be at war with the population. And it based on wealth not race!

Wealth and privilege wants all the bananas and knows full well it'll leave half the country in misery. So the need to have the bootboys seeing the population as the enemy.

You know I'm right! But it hurts doesn't it!

Except when they're "Christians" and the head of the county Republican party in a "red" state murdering people over a child custody dispute-

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/affidavit-reveals-possible-motivation-behind-plot-to-kill-2-kansas-women-in-oklahoma-panhandle/ar-BB1lFWMx

koco.com

Suspect in death of 2 Kansas women was Cimarron County GOP chair

https://www.facebook.com/AbigailOgle

State Sen. Nathan Dahm, who is the chairman of the Oklahoma GOP, spoke out on Tuesday on the tragic situation and the suspect's position

Open link

Dragging stupid partisan politics into the question of gun violence just obscures reality.

even average citizens of the poorest states, even poor deep Republican Mississippi or even poor deep Republican Alabama, are richer than the average European.

So no, it's not about money/losers/winners.

SOMEHOW Europe manages to keep its homicide rate at a tiny fraction of the US.

Gee I wonder what it is...maybe guns? Could it be the guns and the Republican Party?

Hard for mentally ill people to kill another person without a gun. Easy to do it with a gun.

You know I'm right! But it hurts, doesn't it!

Illinois has a 16.1 gun death rate per capita, Indiana 18.4.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/gun-deaths-per-capita-by-state

Nine of the ten lowest gun death rates are Democratic states and most of the next ten as well.

The U.S. has a gun death rate 25x that of other industrialized countries.

It's not whites driving the murder rate in Louisiana (New Orleans), Maryland (Baltimore), etc

@brojoes

Can we merge this with the open coaching positions thread.

Thanks

Jeez what a s**t show this thread has become. Just shut the fk up and go somewhere else if you don't have anything resembling condolences to add.

Imagine being a track coach at a university and when you're tragically killed the most popular track message board on the Internet is just political debate bs. Even if it's spam it's still terrible.

Rest in peace coach, may your family, friends, and athletes get through their grief in their own time.