He might have a claim to run the final in Paris..... Splitting 43 low - 42 high seems realistic and would do it.
Doubt it, unless someone is injured. Keep in mind that Rai usually runs a leg. And while I'm a huge fan, I'd pick Rai over Quincy for the Olympic final.
On the other hand, you could certainly run Quincy on the mixed 4x4 and the men's 4x4 rounds.
Maybe you consider Quincy Wilson ahead of Deadmon based on this race. But they were 5th and 6th at the trials. So I'd still put Quincy Hall, Norman, Rai Benjamin and Chris Bailey ahead on the depth chart, with Vernan Norwood as the veteran helping with rounds.
OTOH, Noah Lyles can shut up about relay duty unless he thinks he can run a 44-low.
Nice to see the US get some depth back in the 400m.
This is not 2023. Benjamin was ranked US #1 last year with his 44.21.
This year, 4 guys have run 44.23 or better. Benjamin’s SB is a 44.42.
We have the fastest US#4 in US history this year.
I can see Benjamin running the mixed relay together with Norwood. That would be a super fast medley relay with Alexis Holmes (49.78) and ?. That’s a WR.
He might have a claim to run the final in Paris..... Splitting 43 low - 42 high seems realistic and would do it.
Doubt it, unless someone is injured. Keep in mind that Rai usually runs a leg. And while I'm a huge fan, I'd pick Rai over Quincy for the Olympic final.
On the other hand, you could certainly run Quincy on the mixed 4x4 and the men's 4x4 rounds.
Maybe you consider Quincy Wilson ahead of Deadmon based on this race. But they were 5th and 6th at the trials. So I'd still put Quincy Hall, Norman, Rai Benjamin and Chris Bailey ahead on the depth chart, with Vernan Norwood as the veteran helping with rounds.
OTOH, Noah Lyles can shut up about relay duty unless he thinks he can run a 44-low.
Nice to see the US get some depth back in the 400m.
What Lyles thinks he can do in the 400 is of no interest. He needs to go out there and do it.
Bailey and Norman are the weak links. I seem to recall Doom running down Bailey in the indoors 4x4. If they do not perform in their individual event, by running 44.2 or faster, then then one of them should be switched out. The probably of both fizzling is about the same. Rai most likely will anchor and I have no problem with that.
This is legit impressive. I thought, put him in the pool, let him run the mixed relay and learn from the experience. No way he could be on the men’s relay because of the nerves and how poorly he paced the final at Trials. But this is next level. I would let him run the prelims and if he pops a good one, have him in the final. What leg though? Maybe Lyles and his expertise can figure that out for everybody.
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Quincy should run on the men's 4 x 400m relay even if its just in the prelims. In fact the top 6 from the Trials should be guaranteed a spot on the 4 x 400m. Prelims and finals that's 8 legs needs to be filled and stock passes aren't as MUCH A major factor in the 4 x 400m.
I could see him going 44.0 this year but no faster
Whats impressive is that 300m split. Would be a world u18 best by a wide, wide margin if there was official timing on it (and obviously a US hs record as well)
What is impressive is that a 16 year old ran 44.2.
Yeah no sht but theres no reason to mention that on a thread titled "QUINCY MF WILSON 44.20 - a time that would have won the 2022 and 2023 World Championships!!!"
That 300 is impressive in addition to the 400 and if you don't understand that idk what to say
Doubt it, unless someone is injured. Keep in mind that Rai usually runs a leg. And while I'm a huge fan, I'd pick Rai over Quincy for the Olympic final.
On the other hand, you could certainly run Quincy on the mixed 4x4 and the men's 4x4 rounds.
Maybe you consider Quincy Wilson ahead of Deadmon based on this race. But they were 5th and 6th at the trials. So I'd still put Quincy Hall, Norman, Rai Benjamin and Chris Bailey ahead on the depth chart, with Vernan Norwood as the veteran helping with rounds.
OTOH, Noah Lyles can shut up about relay duty unless he thinks he can run a 44-low.
Nice to see the US get some depth back in the 400m.
What Lyles thinks he can do in the 400 is of no interest. He needs to go out there and do it.
Bailey and Norman are the weak links. I seem to recall Doom running down Bailey in the indoors 4x4. If they do not perform in their individual event, by running 44.2 or faster, then then one of them should be switched out. The probably of both fizzling is about the same. Rai most likely will anchor and I have no problem with that.
In fairness, Bailey wasn't properly set up on that relay - he didn't even make the individual 400m team indoors and he was put up against the indoor 400m world champion.
That said, I have to imagine Rai is gonna be on the anchor. There are multiple teams within striking distance of the US in the 4x400 and the relay coaches will want the strongest runner possible on that anchor
If my quick research is correct, only 19 countries have faster national records. He's already faster than the record holder in places like Germany, Italy, Spain and Australia.
If my quick research is correct, only 19 countries have faster national records. He's already faster than the record holder in places like Germany, Italy, Spain and Australia.
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And the 2024 WORLD Indoor 400m champion Mr. Doom's 44.15 NR/PB would find him leaning and leaning hard to beat Quincy omg LOL
What Lyles thinks he can do in the 400 is of no interest. He needs to go out there and do it.
Bailey and Norman are the weak links. I seem to recall Doom running down Bailey in the indoors 4x4. If they do not perform in their individual event, by running 44.2 or faster, then then one of them should be switched out. The probably of both fizzling is about the same. Rai most likely will anchor and I have no problem with that.
In fairness, Bailey wasn't properly set up on that relay - he didn't even make the individual 400m team indoors and he was put up against the indoor 400m world champion.
That said, I have to imagine Rai is gonna be on the anchor. There are multiple teams within striking distance of the US in the 4x400 and the relay coaches will want the strongest runner possible on that anchor
If Rai runs 46 low or faster for his event, he will be the anchor for the 4x4. The question mark is what happens with the 3 entrants of the 400. Will any become the clear weak link or will they all perform? If one stumbles (44 high or 45 low)I can see the composition of the team becoming more difficult to decide. However, if they all perform, most likely we will have the 3 of the 400flat+Rai for the 4x4 final.
Wilson really comes off as one of the nicest, coolest teenagers in the world in addition to being a generational talent. 42.xx incoming in the next few years?
Doubt it, unless someone is injured. Keep in mind that Rai usually runs a leg. And while I'm a huge fan, I'd pick Rai over Quincy for the Olympic final.
On the other hand, you could certainly run Quincy on the mixed 4x4 and the men's 4x4 rounds.
Maybe you consider Quincy Wilson ahead of Deadmon based on this race. But they were 5th and 6th at the trials. So I'd still put Quincy Hall, Norman, Rai Benjamin and Chris Bailey ahead on the depth chart, with Vernan Norwood as the veteran helping with rounds.
OTOH, Noah Lyles can shut up about relay duty unless he thinks he can run a 44-low.
Nice to see the US get some depth back in the 400m.
This is not 2023. Benjamin was ranked US #1 last year with his 44.21.
This year, 4 guys have run 44.23 or better. Benjamin’s SB is a 44.42.
We have the fastest US#4 in US history this year.
I can see Benjamin running the mixed relay together with Norwood. That would be a super fast medley relay with Alexis Holmes (49.78) and ?. That’s a WR.
Norwood claims back his spot on the 4x400 with his 44.10 PB today
i guess that Deadmon should then be on the mixed relay (which makes mixed relay even stronger)