But let's all cut the sh-t for just a second here.
When this guy came from nowhere and started blasting sub 3.29's and sub 13's a lot of people their hands up and said "this just doesn't look right" and of course they were smacked across the face with fabelled wet towel of "racism" and "discrimination and prejudice against North Africans" and every other pathetic "wishful thinking" verbal gymnastic to somehow explain what most intelligent track followers knew.
So where are you now?
Yeah, thought so.
Yeah, Katir was an obvious doper. But, let's face it, "Moroccan-Spaniard" is almost a given for doping. There are cheaters everywhere of course, but let's just say that the cultures of those two countries don't exactly put a lot of emphasis on fair play. You're pretty much a sucker if you don't cheat.
But let's all cut the sh-t for just a second here.
When this guy came from nowhere and started blasting sub 3.29's and sub 13's a lot of people their hands up and said "this just doesn't look right" and of course they were smacked across the face with fabelled wet towel of "racism" and "discrimination and prejudice against North Africans" and every other pathetic "wishful thinking" verbal gymnastic to somehow explain what most intelligent track followers knew.
So where are you now?
Yeah, thought so.
Yeah, Katir was an obvious doper. But, let's face it, "Moroccan-Spaniard" is almost a given for doping. There are cheaters everywhere of course, but let's just say that the cultures of those two countries don't exactly put a lot of emphasis on fair play. You're pretty much a sucker if you don't cheat.
I will sock you with this "he has not the ability to run under 3:28"
continue to dream.
Keep yourself with 400 Kenyans caught and a country in the mix to be banned.
The facts are: -Cheruiyot has been a top-10 1500m runners from 2015-2024 -Katir only could last 3 years before failing his responsibilities as an athlete with Whereabouts Failures and Tampering.
Instead of desperately trying to defend him, you should admit he let you down and perpetuated the stereotypes of North African runners.
Culturally he seems more spanish than Moroccan in interviews. He's definitely a typical Spanish kid of his generation in many ways. So maybe he's just perpetuating stereotypes of Spanish runners.
it all reminds me of a scene and phrase from the movie "The Contender", with Gary Oldman, Joan Allen and Jeff Bridges ........ "Who doesn't want a shortcut to greatness?"
But let's all cut the sh-t for just a second here.
When this guy came from nowhere and started blasting sub 3.29's and sub 13's a lot of people their hands up and said "this just doesn't look right" and of course they were smacked across the face with fabelled wet towel of "racism" and "discrimination and prejudice against North Africans" and every other pathetic "wishful thinking" verbal gymnastic to somehow explain what most intelligent track followers knew.
So where are you now?
Yeah, thought so.
Well, I, for instance, am still here..! Let me stress the following: Quite a few posters (not everybody) originally based their doping claims against Katir on his progress, and his country and country of origin, whereas they gave an almost totally free pass to the Norwegian Nordås, who had a very similar progress. If my memory serves me right you were one of those… Saying this, I nevertheless acknowledge that you in later posts have nuanced your comparison between Katir and Nordås in a way that remove the bias…
I don’t see any evidence of Katir doping (in the meaning of injection of drugs). But he is highly suspicious. And he clearly has broken the doping code. And I also welcome this new process of tampering investigation -the proofs here seem very convincing.
But let's all cut the sh-t for just a second here.
When this guy came from nowhere and started blasting sub 3.29's and sub 13's a lot of people their hands up and said "this just doesn't look right" and of course they were smacked across the face with fabelled wet towel of "racism" and "discrimination and prejudice against North Africans" and every other pathetic "wishful thinking" verbal gymnastic to somehow explain what most intelligent track followers knew.
As a general point, linking "coach/agent " in terms of knowledge of and facilitating in an athlete's doping intake or indeed doping violation seems to me worth looking at. Yes no doubt there ARE coaches and, separately,agents who liaise in cheating but surely also many agents who experience a net financial loss when one of their clients gets busted and serves a ban. I'm aware mostaza manages or has managed various banned athletes over some 30 years. My guess is that when he took on katir he saw both great talent and a trajectory that he knew would raise eyebrows. In most cases an elite athlete's agent will have a very different level of contact with that athlete compared to the coach.
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