Any thoughts on why they didn't run Manwaring at NXN? If he was their 6th runner at the regional meet, I would think they'd run him at nationals.
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You all could check up the sub-5 and sub-10 challenge data, which is adding more schools every day.
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He raced in the Large school race and beat their 7 by a couple of seconds. Harriman got out bad at NXR, hence why they were so far behind American Fork. Manwaring had never actually beat Herriman's 7th man head to head, and their varsity is already set before NXN.
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Xczsa wrote:
Awsi wrote:
So this year they only had 1 person run what Sean Brosnan considers “fast for a high school mile”
Yes, that’s correct. When he was there, he had a 4:17 guy sitting and watching the National XC Championship.
He technically had two. Cantu’s PB in the fall of 2021 was also 4:17 and he was not top 7 at that time. He was top 7 in 2022, so he does not qualify for this title.
As of March 30, 2024, NP only has one sub 4:20 guy (2 if you include Doshi who did it in the past, when Brosnan was the coach). It will probably be corrected by end of the season however.
Shetty has a good shot to go under 4:20 this season. Doshi will need to back to his former fitness to do it
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Butchanan wrote:
He raced in the Large school race and beat their 7 by a couple of seconds. Harriman got out bad at NXR, hence why they were so far behind American Fork. Manwaring had never actually beat Herriman's 7th man head to head, and their varsity is already set before NXN.
RunningLane and track season seems to be where Manwaring has shown signs of serious improvement, and next year he can be anywhere between #1 and #4 on the team. No other nonsenior has broken 10 in the 3200 yet, although a couple of guys were close. So to repeat as NXN champs, the question will be, can they find a really good #5, and will they have a #6&7 to back the scorers up.
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Matthew Boling
Obvious choice
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jumprun771 wrote:
Xczsa wrote:
Ok, Golomb steps into first place for now with his 4:15.22
However he would have easily made the York team had he ran for them in the fall
5000m
15:04.6 Brady Golomb
16:09.1 York #1 Zach Saltiel
17:01.2 York #7 Evan Zapata
Yes, he would have been their #1 guy. And my guess is he probably would have made the guys on the York team better than they were
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I had faster prs than Zaki...and not top 7 on my HS xc team...because we didn't have CC! :)
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Pointing it out again wrote:
Matthew Boling
Obvious choice
Joseph Fahnbulleh
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Robert Gary ran 4:10 for the mile in HS, didn't run XC in HS, played soccer, so never top 7
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IF you guys wanna go the never ran XC route....it's gotta be Coley Candaele from Carpenteria High in the late 80s. 4:06 1600m and I think he ran a 1:51 800m and went on to run at Oregon. I think he was the D4 record holder at that time, but that's for someone else to research. In the fall he was a stud QB with countless All CIF teams, CIF player of the year, led his team to a few CIF titles with undefeated seasons. He was the kind of runner you would have liked to have seen run in super spikes. He's possibly a better coach having won a couple of Nike Track Nationals with his high school team that was very close to Doug Soles's Great Oak school site and even Soles will admit....this guy in very good. He even got to experience coaching Michael Norman. Talk about a charmed life.
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I love it when high school kids post a hyper specific thread about themselves (but try to make it seem random). Hello Ryker!
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my two pennies wrote:
FWIW, on their current team, Luke Hnatt has run 9:18 but didn't make their varsity this fall. He's only a sophomore, though, so he'll be on the team in the future. Their fastest senior not on varsity only ran 4:41.
9:14 at Arcadia. 1 second behind 3-year varsity senior Falkowski.
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Daniel Vaca of Bellarmine in San Jose, California ran 4:12/9:14 in 2021 and was not a top 7 XC runner for them. He was mostly 8th man or farther back and all the guys ahead of him were in the same class. That class was loaded -- 3 guys ran sub-9:00 -- but everyone was talking about Newbury Park so they didn't get much attention. Covid didn't help either.
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winner... wrote:
Daniel Vaca of Bellarmine in San Jose, California ran 4:12/9:14 in 2021 and was not a top 7 XC runner for them. He was mostly 8th man or farther back and all the guys ahead of him were in the same class. That class was loaded -- 3 guys ran sub-9:00 -- but everyone was talking about Newbury Park so they didn't get much attention. Covid didn't help either.
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What a strange question. How is anyone supposed to know the fastest 8th place guy?
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taCV wrote:
What a strange question. How is anyone supposed to know the fastest 8th place guy?
… right? Why would anyone care about this topic?
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Yes, Veca was clearly top 7 in XC
But yes, junior in 2019 from a top program, so was still JV.
No XC season in 2020, so never makes varsity XC
Gets to run outdoor in 2021 and runs fast…
Kind of a cheat code here. Thus question was not meant to handle this situation, but technically does. Carries an “*” however
I guess it was the same for a guy who got injured during XC of senior year. Was not meant to deal with that either
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Christ on a bike, who wants to carry around names like Zaki and Ryker for 70 more years?
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San Clemente Senior Jackson Brownell - 1:55 800 PR. Yesterday he was part of the winning 4x800 team at Arcadia.
Didn’t make their top 7, but last fall, there were 5 seniors in that top 7, and they won state / took 8th at NXN (beat all other CA teams)
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