jfk, just let this man rest!? unless it is being used for a lawsuit by the Coach's family for some case against Kiptum's estate, then I don't think it really needs commenting/reporting on. It's just in bad taste and tarnishing the memory
Same way no-one needed to be told why Sammy Wanjiru was jumping off his balcony. Some things can be left alone folks, we don't need to know everything.
Two reporters from The Nation - Cellestine Olilo & Bernard Rotich - have painstakingly retraced Kelvin Kiptum's final hours, even looking at CCTV footage and talking to the people who waited on him at three different bars/restaurants.
It's worth noting that while his father a few months ago said that Kelvin had never had a drop of alcohol that is not true. Kiptum had two beers at the first establishment which he left around 7 pm (He died just before 11 pm). There is no mention of him drinking alcohol at the final two places and the waiter at the final establishment, where they closed the door in a VIP room, said he didn't order anything to drink at all. The toxicology reports haven't come back yet.
The article also includes this line, "The waiters' accounts are that by the time Kiptum was leaving, he was sober, and his gait was steady."
Are we really going to put this cloud over this man? Come on most of us, if not all of us that drink even occasionally have driven after a couple beers. Don't label him incorrectly just like it wasn't fair how Steve Prefontaine was labeled when alcohol was in his system when he died. All of us probably have had at least one incident that was a split second from death, whether it's a deer crossing rhe road, another driver etc etc
The speculation seems fair given the cloudy circumstances of the death of an athlete in his prime. We now know what his father said about him not drinking was not true. He had a mistress and a child out of wedlock. He crashed his car very late at night after a night out on the town and no results from the toxicology report.
I can't believe you brought up Pre as your counter. By all accounts Pre was hammered the night he crashed and if you've been to Pre's rock it not a difficult road to navigate. Anyone who knew Pre was not in the least surprised he was driving drunk.
Two reporters from The Nation - Cellestine Olilo & Bernard Rotich - have painstakingly retraced Kelvin Kiptum's final hours, even looking at CCTV footage and talking to the people who waited on him at three different bars/restaurants.
It's worth noting that while his father a few months ago said that Kelvin had never had a drop of alcohol that is not true. Kiptum had two beers at the first establishment which he left around 7 pm (He died just before 11 pm). There is no mention of him drinking alcohol at the final two places and the waiter at the final establishment, where they closed the door in a VIP room, said he didn't order anything to drink at all. The toxicology reports haven't come back yet.
The article also includes this line, "The waiters' accounts are that by the time Kiptum was leaving, he was sober, and his gait was steady."
I'm not sure if things have changed, but I have been told by numerous friends who have visited Kenya that there is a significant stigma against beer drinking. As in: the only people who drink beer are alcoholics, and if you ask for beer, people will think you are an alcoholic... it's a different perception for wine or cocktails.
I don't think there is any reason to think Kiptum was alcoholic, but I find this choice of drink odd unless things have changed in the last few years.
If you’re a skinny 140 lb distance runner staying lean who doesn’t regularly drink, were perhaps dehydrated or under fed from a big workout that day at elevation, 2 beers could definitely impair you, especially in the dark on poor roads.
Interesting story. Hopefully the toxicology report can clear up what exactly his condition was. As of now, I'm going to assume he was more or less fine and crashed due to the poor driving infrastructure in Kenya.
I foretold that sex+drugs+alcohol were an evil trinity that were inseparable and true enough reports came up showing Kiptum was sexually immoral + alcohol drinker + definitely (though no objective evidence) PED abuser!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For the final PED one, it's deduced based on the inseparable EVIL TRINITY!!!!!
I told you so right????????????? I knew it, I said it, I knew it!!!!! Gotta throw out that 2:00:35 hogwash!!!!!
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Hi, I also have a bad ominous feeling about that mystery woman Sharon. Given her young age and good looks, Kiptum's now well-known adultery and womanizing wayzzzz, the evil trinity rules that something sexual was brewing between them both!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hi, I also have a bad ominous feeling about that mystery woman Sharon. Given her young age and good looks, Kiptum's now well-known adultery and womanizing wayzzzz, the evil trinity rules that something sexual was brewing between them both!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why don’t you think more and post less? You sound unhinged.
I knew it, I wrote back on a previous Kiptum thread that he was obviously drinking and driving and I got down voted. I am yet again vindicated.
2 beers a few hours before doesnt do a lot, even for someone with zero bodyfat and overall pretty low mass.
I don’t think we are getting the full picture here and it’s one of those situations i’m not sure if we will. And that’s alright. Very tragic, me and my dad were running together the other day, he told me his fast running days are probably behind him and I jokingly said he’s not far ahead of kipchoge age wise so he shouldn’t be making excuses, then I remembered Kiptum is only a bit older than I am and that made me sad.
Sounds about right, it seems you don't need to fail the breathalyzer test to be impaired by alcohol on the roads right???
But the thing that gets to me so bad is his sexually promiscuous and adulterous ways. I'm just shocked till this day!!!!! What's up with the younger generation of Kenyan distance runners these days???? Where were the angelic virtues and mannerisms of Haile Geb, Hicham EL G, Paul Tergat, Kenenisa Bekele etc of old??????
How could a sexually immoral be holding the WR of 2:00:35????
From what I know, only 'Tibetan Monks' or otherwise like Hicham EL G, Haile Geb were capable of holding any WR at any distance event and to have the anti-thesis of 'Tibetan Monk' ala Kelvin Kiptum, an adulterer and womanizer hold any distance WR is just morally unbecoming and indecorous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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