LetsRunSpecial wrote:
I don’t give a sht about national security concerns bullsht. However, I agree we should ban TikTok since I don’t use it.
Huh?
LRC note #2: We've merged two threads into 1. The other thread title was, "TikTok drama: what do you think?"
LRC note #1
We changed the thread title as the OP mistakenly used the same thread title they used a few months ago when Montana banned tiktok at the state level as shown here: https://www.letsrun.com/forum/...
LetsRunSpecial wrote:
I don’t give a sht about national security concerns bullsht. However, I agree we should ban TikTok since I don’t use it.
Huh?
TikTok is spyware, controlled by the CCP. Harvesting and warehousing massive amounts of personal data (mostly of dumasses for sure) to be used for whatever purpose suits them. Since they are an adversarial government, ban it from app stores.
MeHereYouWhere?! wrote:
I didn't realize the sheer numbers of small business that use TikTok for their marketing. Apparently its wayyyy cheaper (or free) than other social media platforms like Facebook. Instagram and Twitter.
I still say ban it. 99% of people using it have no idea what app is looking at on their phones.
All apps are looking at and sharing your information. Read the fine print. Google and Meta knows more about you than Tik ToK. This is nothing but a bunch of BS making China out to be the boogie man.
TikTok didn't do themselves any political favors with this stunt.
Tax dollars go to Ukraine to go to Hunter and to be laundered back to the DNC
It is quite remarkable how easy it was for the devil to win over the souls of humanity. The last 20 years have ushered in a wave of technologies that have convinced all of you to sell your souls for access to "content" that desensitizes you to the perils of hate, erodes your ability to think critically, and warps your sense of good vs. evil. We have invited it in. We give it to our kids. We celebrate it in every way, all the while knowing it is wrong.
We are creating a hell on earth so furious that we won't notice the slip from one side to the next. I would tell you to kill your phones but I know it is too late.
As Nikki Haley said when supporting the ban, this is about stopping those tik toks from Gaza from getting out
Hardcore Trumper, Steven Mnuchin, says he will buy the TikToc. That explains why Trump does not want it banned. A new platform of over 150 million users to brainwash with rightwing nonsense. The Chinese are far better owners than rightwing nutbars could ever be. Mnuchin will rename it TrumToc in all gold letters ... every Trump 100 word post will auto-popup and cannot be closed until you read it out loud.
Kill Your Phone wrote:
It is quite remarkable how easy it was for the devil to win over the souls of humanity. The last 20 years have ushered in a wave of technologies that have convinced all of you to sell your souls for access to "content" that desensitizes you to the perils of hate, erodes your ability to think critically, and warps your sense of good vs. evil. We have invited it in. We give it to our kids. We celebrate it in every way, all the while knowing it is wrong. . . .
Which is why trumpers want to buy it .
bah. wrote:
Sure, there might be a vague national security risk of having a foreign app based in a country perceived as The Adversary, but come on, isn’t the free market American way to build a better app and compete? Government appropriation of a thriving business is a classic move in countries without strong property rights, like China ironically.
This is really not a conservative or liberal issue.
The govt isn't confiscating the business. They are saying we don't want the Chinese to be in charge of how are youth spend hours a day each day. So they can sell the business. I'm all for it.
There are all sorts of media rules in the US about how many tv stations you can own in a market, etc. This makes total sense.
I'd rather Congress go further and ban all social media apps - facebook, twitter, instagram - to anyone under the age of 18. They are probably worse for teens than smoking to be honest.
When you become an adult (and currently that's 18, although I'm open for the debate as to whether is should be 21 or 25), you are an adult and can vote, serve in the military, drink, smoke weed, use whatever apps you want, chop your privates off, etc. It's crazy to me that you can sign up to fight and die for the country at 18 but you can't have a beer.
rojo wrote:
I sure hope it’s legal. It’s a national security issue. Foreign entities should not be anllowed to own media companies in the US.
This is a strange view. Media is business like any other with plenty of competition. Disallowing Americans who want to consume foreign media runs counter to the First.
We’ve blithely allowed (thus far at least) chip fabs to be entirely outsourced, which is much more dangerous if the situation does get adversarial.
TheTrumpWay wrote:
Why does Trump like Chinese TiKTok more than Facebook? is he compromised?
His cronie, Manure...I mean Mnuchin is putting together a group to buy it.
The United States is a damn trip. So they want Tik Tok banned or sold to an American. What f'ing difference does that make? They still will have all your information. Google and Meta and every app, already has the same thing and sells it.
I have no problem with this but other US companies will also suffer in retaliation. China will bring payback to Apple, Tesla, etc. I don't care about the success of either of those companies BTW.
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Of course, China is using TikTok to spy. Of course, TikTok is ludicrously bad for kids and teens, whose attention spans are becoming so short that 1 1/2 second videos are too long for them and they scroll past within half a second. But then China, along with numerous other countries and private concerns, is hacking into every website there is at every moment. And TikTok is just a scapegoat for China and every other social media company out there. So, this is just a political stunt. Ban social media for teens and kids in general, as they already do at many schools. Only a few parents can stomach the problems that are created by individual attempts by them to ban it, namely, that since the kids can't go anywhere without the parents, the parents all of a sudden have to find other things for the kids to do and they have to say no to the kids.
I’m trying to keep up. So a top adversary of the U.S. controls a platform that's used by 170 million people in the U.S. and it's also the primary news source for a third of young American adults? And this adversary collects personal information about all of these users, stuff like where they live, what they like, who they are friends with, and what they are writing in private messages? And now, with powerful new AI tools, this same adversary can weaponize all that personal information in a myriad of ways, to steer the thoughts, opinions and beliefs of these Americans, in order to do things like determine the outcome of U.S. elections?
lover of cat videos wrote:
I’m trying to keep up. So a top adversary of the U.S. controls a platform that's used by 170 million people in the U.S. and it's also the primary news source for a third of young American adults? And this adversary collects personal information about all of these users, stuff like where they live, what they like, who they are friends with, and what they are writing in private messages? And now, with powerful new AI tools, this same adversary can weaponize all that personal information in a myriad of ways, to steer the thoughts, opinions and beliefs of these Americans, in order to do things like determine the outcome of U.S. elections?
Crap, I was so distracted by my cat videos that I forgot to ask about China’s efforts to hurt the U.S. by fueling divisions and social unrest via targeted online content. How much does this social unrest harm the U.S. economy?
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I’m trying to keep up. So a top adversary of the U.S. controls a platform that's used by 170 million people in the U.S. and it's also the primary news source for a third of young American adults? And this adversary collects personal information about all of these users, stuff like where they live, what they like, who they are friends with, and what they are writing in private messages? And now, with powerful new AI tools, this same adversary can weaponize all that personal information in a myriad of ways, to steer the thoughts, opinions and beliefs of these Americans, in order to do things like determine the outcome of U.S. elections?
Quote from above: "Which is why trumpers want to buy it."
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