Every swimmer knows you don't even get out of the pool until everyone is done swimming. You stay in YOUR lane until every swimmer is done. This is a basic rule of every competition at all levels of swimming.
Correct. This is a basic rule at every level of swimming - from summer league to Worlds/Olympics.
If that was the best idea you could come up with, I’d love to hear the ones that didn’t make the cut. Lol
Problem solved? Now the second place guy doesn’t have a medal. What’s your idea on fixing that? (This should be good) :)
I'm not fixing anything. Second place is doing the right thing and giving his win to the rightful winner. I would have done the same thing.
Point of clarification on your post. He gave his medal to Lloyd, not his win.
Symbolic gesture. The medal may go to Lloyd, but the points go to Dant and Lloyd is still DQ'd and gets none. Dant will be in the record books as the winner of the 2024 ACC Championships mile. Lloyd will have a DQ next to his name in the official results for the race.
Swimming is a tight arse sport. The referee is in the right, the swimmer is in the wrong. This is a fundamental rule in swimming that anyone who has come close to a competitive swimming environment is aware of. The former swimmer in me cringed as soon as he sat on the lane ropes and slid into his teammate’s lane. Automatic DQ. This is why you normally see swimmers hugging over the lane ropes. I find it super weird that the swimmer was not aware of the rule — anything that will get you DQd is drilled into you from a young age. And referees are usually very strict at any level, even with kids in the most ridiculous scenarios. I wonder if it was an accident - he didn’t realise the others hadn’t finished yet, or he didn’t mean to slide off the rope into the lane and then tried to play it off. But, by the rules, he is in the wrong, and at his level, he should just play by the rules…. Or this happens.
Exactly. Officials are DQ'ing 5-year-olds at meets for not doing two hand touches on breast stroke, or having a scissor kick on fly. It's how you learn.
I think this is awful. Your job as an official is to make sure things are fair & to make obvious calls. I'm sure the rule they're enforcing was written decades ago & its intent wasn't for something like this. You can't cross over while other people are still swimming to impeded other swimmers. Just recognize that nothing he did affected anybody else still swimming & move on. The kid was excited & went to his teammate. The last thing going through his mind is the rulebook. He didn't cross the lane of someone still finishing. & people are still swimming because it's a conference meet. If this kid is swimming with people at his level the finishes are a lot closer together & we don't even have a situation like this. To take a hard approach on this rule in this situation is outdated. Don't make it about yourself. Nothing impacted anybody else competing. Nobody is asking for this to be enforced if it doesn't get called.
An Australian women's relay team got DQ in either the Comm Games or Olympics (can't remember which, was probably 20 years ago) when they would have won gold. One of the swimmers in the earlier legs jumped in once the anchor had touched the wall. Not exactly the same here but it's an obvious DQ and literally every competitive swimmer knows the rule, it's just an unfortunate brain explosion.
An Australian women's relay team got DQ in either the Comm Games or Olympics (can't remember which, was probably 20 years ago) when they would have won gold. One of the swimmers in the earlier legs jumped in once the anchor had touched the wall. Not exactly the same here but it's an obvious DQ and literally every competitive swimmer knows the rule, it's just an unfortunate brain explosion.
It's not an automatic call. There were comments on SwimSwam from swimming officials who said they have seen it ignored many times. But if anyone should know the rule it's a distance swimmer. Those races are prone to huge gaps before the final swimmer finishes. In this instance I think it was something like 50 seconds.
Swimming is absolutely picky on rules. These days you have to hold your breath after every individual medley in particular. There are frequent disqualifications for turns and kicks.
And in the recent world championships the guy who would have been favored for gold at 200 butterfly was disqualified after the semifinal for failing to do a two-hand touch. It was very borderline. His left palm touched first, well underwater. Then he pulled the lefft hand off the wall just as the right palm touched. In other sports there is benefit of a doubt. In swimming the tie always goes toward disqualification. He is a Polish swimmer who goes to school at USC. Apparently he launched a tirade on social media before being persuaded to delete the posts. He was upset partially because his twin brother was also in the final. There was a chance to medal together.
Interfering during the race???? His hand touched the wall!! isn’t the race for this NC swimmer “over”??? Stupid is as stupid does on the part of the ref!
It's not an automatic call. There were comments on SwimSwam from swimming officials who said they have seen it ignored many times. But if anyone should know the rule it's a distance swimmer. Those races are prone to huge gaps before the final swimmer finishes. In this instance I think it was something like 50 seconds.
Swimming is absolutely picky on rules. These days you have to hold your breath after every individual medley in particular. There are frequent disqualifications for turns and kicks.
And in the recent world championships the guy who would have been favored for gold at 200 butterfly was disqualified after the semifinal for failing to do a two-hand touch. It was very borderline. His left palm touched first, well underwater. Then he pulled the lefft hand off the wall just as the right palm touched. In other sports there is benefit of a doubt. In swimming the tie always goes toward disqualification. He is a Polish swimmer who goes to school at USC. Apparently he launched a tirade on social media before being persuaded to delete the posts. He was upset partially because his twin brother was also in the final. There was a chance to medal together.
Actually, the touch (finish and turns) on fly and breast absolutely has to be 2 hands separated and simultaneous. This is a thing all swimmers know and in general, benefit of the doubt goes to the swimmer. Judges are instructed not to call something they did not actually see. I don't know this case but it was either a good all or bad call. But hardly unusual.
But all had touched the wall by the time he went over the “rope” as I saw. As I remember that’s it! This USMS swimmer (in 70s) doesn’t compete anymore but this is sad.
But all had touched the wall by the time he went over the “rope” as I saw. As I remember that’s it! This USMS swimmer (in 70s) doesn’t compete anymore but this is sad.
Interfering during the race???? His hand touched the wall!! isn’t the race for this NC swimmer “over”??? Stupid is as stupid does on the part of the ref!
So after I cross the finish line, you are OK with me running back onto the track and interfering with everyone? After all my race is over right? They put rules like this in so there are no judgement calls.
Interfering during the race???? His hand touched the wall!! isn’t the race for this NC swimmer “over”??? Stupid is as stupid does on the part of the ref!
So after I cross the finish line, you are OK with me running back onto the track and interfering with everyone? After all my race is over right? They put rules like this in so there are no judgement calls.
Did you actually watch the footage and see "what he did"? You absolute handbag, zip your yap.
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