It’s all but guaranteed he’s going to be the youngest entrant in the Men’s 1500m at the Olympics. Anyone know who is the youngest runner in history to reach an Olympic final in the 1500m?
That's an interesting question. The problem with some names though is that we can't be sure their ages are accurate. That said, I can even think of anyone under 20 who was even a medallist.
Hard to find an actual answer even with the aid of Google..Jakob would have to be one of the youngest though. Was only 20 and 10ish months old when he won Gold at the Tokyo Olympics. But yes probably a few African runners who on paper are younger.
Pre cheat shoes would have been a 3:56. Still good, no doubt, but no 3:52. If Webb had had the shoes on the day he ran 3:53.4, there is no doubt in my mind that he would have gone 3:50 or under. I’d have bet my next paycheck on it and won.
3:52 is no longer 3:52 people. Or, in other words, 3:52 is no longer the amazing time we once thought. The sooner fans of the sport understand this, the easier it will become to put things into perspective.
cheat shoes have cheapened the sport and there is no going back, unfortunately.
He's an incredible talent, but still when we see pros who train with pros in other countries running faster times than any of our high schoolers (Laros under our 800/1500 hs records, same with Jakob, same with Myers, same with multiple Kenyans, though who knows which ones are the age they say?), our first thought need not be how amazing these guys are but why our system has these artificial and counter-productive age-group training and competition limits.
BowerMen of Oregon seems well set up to start to address this if they bring more cohesiveness between programs as UO talent gets better/older
you even in theory could have 16-17 year olds moving to eugene with Nike/BTC NIL deals and competing as BTC until they're old enough to put in 4 years under Oregon brand
Pre cheat shoes would have been a 3:56. Still good, no doubt, but no 3:52. If Webb had had the shoes on the day he ran 3:53.4, there is no doubt in my mind that he would have gone 3:50 or under. I’d have bet my next paycheck on it and won.
3:52 is no longer 3:52 people. Or, in other words, 3:52 is no longer the amazing time we once thought. The sooner fans of the sport understand this, the easier it will become to put things into perspective.
cheat shoes have cheapened the sport and there is no going back, unfortunately.
So when are we going to give up this farcical, tired old narrative that "super" spikes are somehow worth 4+ seconds in the mile? Unless you want to continue believing that every single 1500m runner from 2019 onwards actually regressed and got several seconds slower than their 2017-2018 selves.
He is going to be a superstar no doubt. Obviously if he was American he would become a megastar and every other thread here would already be about him.
But I think if he fulfils his potential he could 'transcend the sport' and become the athletics version of Ian Thorpe.
This mile was his 4th race in the Australian domestic season running the following times: 3k 8:00 (windy conditions) 1:47.11 800 1500 3:34 Mile 3:52. Australian Track and Field Championships are mid April.
He's an incredible talent, but still when we see pros who train with pros in other countries running faster times than any of our high schoolers (Laros under our 800/1500 hs records, same with Jakob, same with Myers, same with multiple Kenyans, though who knows which ones are the age they say?), our first thought need not be how amazing these guys are but why our system has these artificial and counter-productive age-group training and competition limits.
I mean maybe, but it’s an indisputable fact that US high schoolers are running faster and in deeper numbers than ever. I’m sure some could benefit from the club/pro setup, but it’s not like Laros/Myers type phenoms are straight up being missed in the US.
The phenoms are being missed in the United States in the hs system. Alan Webb ran 3:53.43 in the system (with someone who would become a pro coach) in 2001. There have been 3:56-59 Americans out of hs systems. Then there was a 3:34 hs'er, Hobbs Kessler, being coached by Ron Warhurst, a great college and pro coach, and he was training with pros, including a two-time Olympic medalist. Brazier was among the most talented ever in high school, yet he only ran 1:47, with a huge negative split, and then 4 seconds faster with a talented collegiate group at Texas A and M the following year. Will Sumner ran 1:46.5 in hs, with his father and mother coaching him, former pro athletes, but even there he was nowhere near Laros until a year at Georgia, where he dropped down to low 1:44 at 19. So, we're not getting the Myers/Laros/Jakob level high schoolers because our guys are not training with professionals in clubs, except for Kessler.
My understanding is that Myers was training with pro's from about the age of 13 with 3:49 miler Jye Edwards and former Indiana NCAA runner Rory Hunter so he isn't new to running with elites. He may have another chance to break Jakob's record as the Australian mile championships are held at the end of March.
That's an interesting question. The problem with some names though is that we can't be sure their ages are accurate. That said, I can even think of anyone under 20 who was even a medallist.
Hard to find an actual answer even with the aid of Google..Jakob would have to be one of the youngest though. Was only 20 and 10ish months old when he won Gold at the Tokyo Olympics. But yes probably a few African runners who on paper are younger.
Hard to find an actual answer even with the aid of Google..Jakob would have to be one of the youngest though. Was only 20 and 10ish months old when he won Gold at the Tokyo Olympics. But yes probably a few African runners who on paper are younger.
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