NICO MF YOUNG 1:55 800 AFTER 5:17 2k at 7000 Feet Elevation

xcvzzcvx wrote:

He did the 2k at roughly 5000m pr pace, 63.4 per 400m, approximately, which is basically pr pace, 13:12.5, but at 7,000 ft on a flat track. The conversion is about 35 seconds for 5000m races at his pace, 9 seconds per mile. He's not running 12:38. But I do think he is breaking 13. After all, that workout includes a lot more in it and the way he finishes hopefully suggests that it didn't overcook him.

Peach Pit wrote:

xcvzzcvx wrote:

He did the 2k at roughly 5000m pr pace, 63.4 per 400m, approximately, which is basically pr pace, 13:12.5, but at 7,000 ft on a flat track. The conversion is about 35 seconds for 5000m races at his pace, 9 seconds per mile. He's not running 12:38. But I do think he is breaking 13. After all, that workout includes a lot more in it and the way he finishes hopefully suggests that it didn't overcook him.

I think he's just super gifted at running at altitude, because when Mike Smith said "No one else can run that here", I assumed he included Nur and Grijalva, both of whom have lived at altitude for longer than Nico. We'll see if Nico is at Nur's level this weekend.

not as impressed wrote:

This workout was NOT as impressive as everyone makes it seem. He had 8 min rest. That's full recovery.

An impressive workout, but there are at least 10 others in the NCAA that can run this exact workout with Nico at sea level (at the faster altitude converted times). Blanks, Robinson, Wolfe, Habtom, Murphy, Houser, Waskom, Bizimana, Matsada, Messaoudi, Essayi just to name 11.

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

Another great video, Gordon is killing it. I looked for his upper body strain and Nico looked much smoother at 1:55 pace than I'd ever really seen before. Mike Smith alluded to improvements in his form and it shows. This really opens up his ceiling on the track, and I am rethinking the notion that he would have to move up to the roads to contend for US teams.

4:20 is not that fast wrote:

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

Another great video, Gordon is killing it. I looked for his upper body strain and Nico looked much smoother at 1:55 pace than I'd ever really seen before. Mike Smith alluded to improvements in his form and it shows. This really opens up his ceiling on the track, and I am rethinking the notion that he would have to move up to the roads to contend for US teams.

I looked at his 8:40 at Arcadia video, and his form looks identical. I think you’re seeing what you want to see.

Swoosh!! wrote:

4:20 is not that fast wrote:

I looked at his 8:40 at Arcadia video, and his form looks identical. I think you’re seeing what you want to see.

4:20 is it true you love Bud Light? wink wink

1609 wrote:

It is not 7000, it is 6900 feet.

not as impressed wrote:

This workout was NOT as impressive as everyone makes it seem. He had 8 min rest. That's full recovery.

53.9 ---> 8 min rest

5:17 2k ---> 8 min rest

4x400 in his mile pace with 2 minutes rest (most coaches give 60-90 seconds rest for 400s at mile pace

ANOTHER 8 min rest

then a 1:55.

Altitude won't hurt the 400s or the 800s at all, especially with the longer rests. Altitude will actually help the 400 and 800. The only interval that is affected by altitude is the 5:17 2k but that's only a 63 average for someone who is supposed to be a 3:48 miler based on the altitude conversion.

An impressive workout, but there are at least 10 others in the NCAA that can run this exact workout with Nico at sea level (at the faster altitude converted times). Blanks, Robinson, Wolfe, Habtom, Murphy, Houser, Waskom, Bizimana, Matsada, Messaoudi, Essayi just to name 11.

Big Time wrote:

Probably just hyping his boy up more than anything. Have heard from multiple people that Nico is unbelievably great at running in altitude.

Rooting for Nico to make that next jump. Good year to do it.

not as impressed wrote:

This workout was NOT as impressive as everyone makes it seem.

I agree. wrote:

not as impressed wrote:

This workout was NOT as impressive as everyone makes it seem.

There appears to be an infatuated bunch of groupies on here.

dkodiak wrote:

Love this stuff... the amazing thing is that the Collegiate Record is now 13:03 by Graham Blanks (Harvard), and I'm not sure this workout is fast enough!!

Jgt11 wrote:

Workout was impressive but nothing insane. Nico clearly wasn't trashed, as he was waiting on another rep before Smith cut the workout and still did a tempo mile before starting his cooldown. Mike Smith isn't training like Salazar looking to hit a crazy peaking workout, just stacking consistent work at altitude. There was probably a double-T workout done earlier in the week and a long run the next day so why kill yourself

Jgt11 wrote:

I agree. wrote:

There appears to be an infatuated bunch of groupies on here.

Workout was impressive but nothing insane. Nico clearly wasn't trashed, as he was waiting on another rep before Smith cut the workout and still did a tempo mile before starting his cooldown. Mike Smith isn't training like Salazar looking to hit a crazy peaking workout, just stacking consistent work at altitude. There was probably a double-T workout done earlier in the week and a long run the next day so why kill yourself