Sisson and Saina are by far the favorites. The third spot will come down to Sara Hall, D’Amato, Fiona O’Keefe, Tuliamuk, Kellyn Taylor, and Lindsay Flanagan. Running a 15 mile tempo at 5:20s is not that impressive, it simply means she’ll be in the pack
I don’t know why this post got downvoted. Running 15 miles at marathon pace is a good workout, but certainly not “insane”.
Yeah marathon “indicator” workouts are notoriously inaccurate. If you’re doing a 5K you can do something like 4 x mile and maybe get a decent idea of if you could have strung it all together. For a marathon you sometimes see people do something like 12 miles at MP thinking that’s an indicator, when in reality you’re not even halfway there
ehhh... I'd say 12 miles @ MP, without tapering and running high volume, is a pretty decent indicator. What would you have someone do, run 24 miles @MP during training?
I don’t think there is anything wrong with the workout. Where the challenge lies is getting too caught up in “x workout” means “y marathon”. That’s just not the case. 24 at MP would obviously be silly. My approach…follow whatever quality training you wish. But instead of getting caught up in trying to justify one’s MP based on completion of certain workouts(Yasso’s is the ultimate example of this), I would focus more on what the effort should feel like, getting comfortable with knowing the effort and gauging the effort and trusting in that. Then on race day just stay fully tuned in to making sure the effort feels appropriate, let the splits fall where they may.
Yeah marathon “indicator” workouts are notoriously inaccurate. If you’re doing a 5K you can do something like 4 x mile and maybe get a decent idea of if you could have strung it all together. For a marathon you sometimes see people do something like 12 miles at MP thinking that’s an indicator, when in reality you’re not even halfway there
ehhh... I'd say 12 miles @ MP, without tapering and running high volume, is a pretty decent indicator. What would you have someone do, run 24 miles @MP during training?
That’s the thing is that there aren’t great indicator workouts that actually make sense to do because of how hard they’d be.
FWIW I’ve generally found the better indicator to be 12 miles at MP -10. After a few marathons where it wasn’t a helpful indicator I started realizing this and that going a bit under MP was actually a better indicator at that distance.
An ironclad rule of Letsrun: If your workout makes it to the message board, you ran it too hard, and are cooked by the time your goal competition arrives. So she will not make the Olympic team. She'll hang in there for 13 miles or so and then fall off the pace. And in typical runner fashion, wonder why she wasn't at her best on race day.
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