ILXC33 wrote:
Thought it was you. Now I see that you just re-posted. Replace you with he. Point remains the same.
Well aren’t you feisty.
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How will the course be this year?
Rain the whole day before is sure to make things interesting. Will this be one of the muddiest years yet?
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Love to see it wrote:
How will the course be this year?
Rain the whole day before is sure to make things interesting. Will this be one of the muddiest years yet?
Sounds like it will be muddy but not as muddy or as horrible as NTN/NXN Portland Meadows. Worst race conditions I have ever ran on and experienced.
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Rain is forecast for Thursday, Friday, and Saturday. It will be a bit muddy, especially for the girl's race. I think that the California teams are very talented but will struggle on wet grass and mud. Glendoveer is a far cry from the dirt/asphalt roads and golf green trimmed grass that they are used to.
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Local XC Fan wrote:
Rain is forecast for Thursday, Friday, and Saturday. It will be a bit muddy, especially for the girl's race. I think that the California teams are very talented but will struggle on wet grass and mud. Glendoveer is a far cry from the dirt/asphalt roads and golf green trimmed grass that they are used to.
Advantage to the mudders born to slop.
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Local XC Fan wrote:
Rain is forecast for Thursday, Friday, and Saturday. It will be a bit muddy, especially for the girl's race. I think that the California teams are very talented but will struggle on wet grass and mud. Glendoveer is a far cry from the dirt/asphalt roads and golf green trimmed grass that they are used to.
I agree with you on the CA runners. I was thinking some may run 40-60 seconds slower. Just looking at results from other rainy years at NXN. Brutal!
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Meanwhile the midwest kids are praying for more rain and somehow more hills.
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Sleeping Midwest wrote:
Meanwhile the midwest kids are praying for more rain and somehow more hills.
Needs more hay bales.
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Love to see it wrote:
Jserra moved up to 3rd place! Impressive! I am rooting for Lone Peak to get a podium spot. How is Santiago ranked below Buchanan? They beat them at State. The battle of the Colorado teams will be fun to watch-I think either could win it all!
Would love to see individual rankings before Saturday.
It would be more interesting to see how well Hill's predication went year after year. Like, what did he predict last year, and how did that compare with the reality of the situation?
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Jonathan Commentor wrote:
Putting CBA 8th is so brave and so true. The Northeast/NY to Cali/Southwest speed rating conversion is at least 3 points. Daniel Tully gave Grievous a 199 for an obviously underving effort.
My predictions:
Herriman & American Fork 1-2, no idea which order.
3: San Clemente
4: CBA
5: Belen
1: Danny Simmons
2: Nathan Neil
3: Evan Noonan
4: Machuro
5: Grievous
Undeserving? You should watch the race. Grevious really made his NXR win look like an easy run in the mud and he has a good chance of winning nationals also. Taking bets.
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Boys team predictions
1. American Fork UT
2. Herriman UT
3. Southlake Carroll TX
4. San Clemente CA
5. Dana Hills CA
6. Belen Jesuit Prep FL
7. CBA NJ
8. Riverton UT
9. Westfield NJ
10. Downers Grove North IL
11. Niwot CO
12. CDA ID
13. Great Oak CA
14. Franklin OR
15. Stevens Point WI
16. Crater OR
17. Wayzata MN
18. Bentonville AR
19. Plainfield North IL
20. Montgomery Bell Academy TN
21. Monroe Woodbury NY
22. Auburn NY22 -
I'll only go top 5 boys:
1. Herriman
2. American Fork
3. Dana Hills
4. Southlake Carroll
5. Downers Grove North
I have DGN higher than most because I've seen them. If they are really on, their split from 1-5 will be less than 20 seconds.
As to top runners, never ever rule out Aden Bandukwala. Dark horse, but a really nice kid with tons of guts.100 -
I'll give it a crack. If everyone has a good day (I know, big if), I think there are 5 teams clearly above the rest. What order those top 5 finish in is anyone's guess.
Team:
1. American Fork (clear favorite)
2. Southlake Carroll (strong NXR showing)
3. Belen Jesuit (better H2H vs Ridgefield than CBA)
4. Herriman (best pack, probably best chance of beating AF, needs a low stick)
5. CBA (has had some amazing performances this year, won't be surprised if they podium)Individual:
1. Simmons
2. Grevious
3. Noonan
4. Neil
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100% those California schools that run road races in 70 degree weather are going to be in for a shock. I like the teams from Utah and Idaho to perform well in these conditions.
Danny Simmons is not a front runner. I anticipate a big pack (5-8) at 4K where Nathan Neil (UW Recruit) will press and Simmons and Grievous will follow.
No one is running down Rachel Forsyth who will take the lead early and won't relent. She will be followed by Gonzaga recruit Logan Hofstee and Mary Bonner Dalton.
I hope this course is good for viewing because I am going to Cheer on the Boys from North Idaho. MUD? Please........170 -
wazzu1452 wrote:
100% those California schools that run road races in 70 degree weather are going to be in for a shock. I like the teams from Utah and Idaho to perform well in these conditions.
Danny Simmons is not a front runner. I anticipate a big pack (5-8) at 4K where Nathan Neil (UW Recruit) will press and Simmons and Grievous will follow.
No one is running down Rachel Forsyth who will take the lead early and won't relent. She will be followed by Gonzaga recruit Logan Hofstee and Mary Bonner Dalton.
I hope this course is good for viewing because I am going to Cheer on the Boys from North Idaho. MUD? Please........
I think with a little hustle you can see the race at about 1200, 1 mile, ~1 3/4 miles, 4K and finish. 1 mile to 1 3/4 does a back loop. There are places where water will likely accumulate on the course such as approaching 1.3 k (also 4K), right after the mile.
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"I think with a little hustle you can see the race at about 1200, 1 mile, ~1 3/4 miles, 4K and finish. 1 mile to 1 3/4 does a back loop. There are places where water will likely accumulate on the course such as approaching 1.3 k (also 4K), right after the mile."
Great information. Thanks. I think I will eventually park myself by that final hill that destroyed Leo Young last year!
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wazzu1452 wrote:
"I think with a little hustle you can see the race at about 1200, 1 mile, ~1 3/4 miles, 4K and finish. 1 mile to 1 3/4 does a back loop. There are places where water will likely accumulate on the course such as approaching 1.3 k (also 4K), right after the mile."
Great information. Thanks. I think I will eventually park myself by that final hill that destroyed Leo Young last year!
here is the course map
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the way the conditions appear to be I don't expect any course records. 17:00-17:10 could be very good for girls being the second race.
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Local XC Fan wrote:
Rain is forecast for Thursday, Friday, and Saturday. It will be a bit muddy, especially for the girl's race. I think that the California teams are very talented but will struggle on wet grass and mud. Glendoveer is a far cry from the dirt/asphalt roads and golf green trimmed grass that they are used to.
Last time it was rainy in 2019 NXN, the CA teams finished 1,2,8.
Everyone else will also run worse than usual, not just CA teams. Plenty of other state meets and NXR events are run on literal golf courses.
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Those top teams were coached by legends Shawn Brosnan and Doug Soules. They aren't there anymore. Outside of these 2 and the old Arcadia Coach, who else has shown they can coach California to a win in the slop?
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