What is up with Tuohy?

Don't combine end of previous season with this one. She ran a lot last year and I presume she reset for the new season.

I am confused by all the doom and gloom about her because she lost a single XC race. I am sure she likes to win but if she is still building fitness she might have been just getting points at Nuttycombe to help the team. She ran really well the other week. Her motion and face in that last 1k kick also made it look like she had a lot in the tank. I don't think she is at full fitness for the season. What do I know? Or what do you know? Let's wait and see how the season develops.

That is to take nothing away from Valby. She clearly is putting the hammer down and seems in good condition this year. It is my hope to see those two both have a great day at nationals and light this forum up with the excitement from the fight.

What happened to her is what happened to everyone.

Peaks and valleys. Plateaus and stagnation. Improvement at a different rate.

Nothing happened to her, she's just an NCAA runner. You go through different phases in the NCAA it's not just upward trajectory. She's human, of course she's going to be tired and have a poor race here and there. Valby is enjoying some success, good for her. Valby was also injured last indoor season, she goes through challenges too.

I definitely think she needs to leave after this season though if she wants a shot at 2024. She needs to focus her training a little more and not race as much.

CooperRunner /. Or, like graduating number one in your high school class, perfect

SATs, going to MIT, and being rather average there…

She realises she (and valby) are a million miles away from being as good as Sifan Hassan, Tsegay etc so are not as motivated.

There is a group of (or maybe just 1) poster(s) who seem determined to find ways to post (sometimes backanded) putdowns of this runner.

Are you referring to astro wrt Valby?

Come to think of it ‘FastTuohy’, you too have taken back-handed shots at Valby.

Really? When did I supposedly do that? I have questioned her foot speed, but not sure anything more than that. So back up your post please.

You may not, but she is. Valby’s stride and gait seems steadier, smoother now. There’s no hint of a limp anymore. She’s definitely more improved than where she was last year.

We will see at NCAAs. She is very good as is Valby but who knows? One of the Kenyans could win on the day. Looking forward to that race. It will be good.

Tuohy started her season later and everyone is overreacting. Pros do this all the time - start slow and peak later. Whether she wins in two weeks or not, Tuohy will PR next year in all events and hit the 5k Olympic standard.

Her not knowing the courses, and her not being coached properly, also comes to mind.

so tell me, is this a "putdown"? from my ranking in the "Top 10" thread
"Agree on 1&2. Valby sets a pace noone else can stay with. Tuohy looked better to me in her close at the ACC meet than I have seen. Looked to me almost exactly the time Orton ran for the last 500 when she won there, looking very light on her feet. I'd expect Valby to create a gap and Tuohy to try to catch. No big hills in last 2K on this course though so might be advantage Valby tho one could argue the opposite tho with Tuohy's better mile speed."

I have also said she seems ill prepared for the major races w respect to her knowledge of the course. Maybe you think that is a put down, but then again recall the path she chose last year, or her thoughts w respect to the finish straightaway. I have also pointed out that might be her coach's fault.

So, I am waiting.....or is your reaction to somewhat put down me similar to your attitude toward Tuohy?

If you want to defend her knowledge of the courses, knock yourself out. That would be funny. But do I say she is not fit, unhealthy, going downhill, etc like some say about Tuohy. Never. And I have made no predictions nor guarantees on who will prevail in 13 days.

* I do not say she is not fit, unhealthy, going downhill, etc.

So what is my “attitude toward Tuohy”?

From that same thread, I stated, “I’m not in a either camp to say Valby, or Tuohy, will “probably” win. I think it could go either way, and I don’t discount the Kenyans, either.”

She has been off ever since that 1500 prelim. I think it is mental. She showed her frustration amd now has some apprehension or the yips.

Remember also FastTuohy, you were reluctant to accept Valby’s answers in interviews. For example, you repeatedly took her to task with regard to her stated weekly mileage being different from what Solinsky said.

I lump you in with all the other non registered users in threads like this. Post with a registered username and maybe you come off the list. See post 58